On a moral level I agree with you. There is an absolute measure of morality, and homosexuality is on the wrong side of that measure. As is adultery, lusting after women, and divorce except in explicitly defined exceptions.
And so long as speakers are discussing the harm of homosexuality, we need to encourage that, just as we need to continue to discuss the harm divorce causes to our children, adultery and sexual immorality, pornography, and the sexualization of women cause in our society.
We need to speak out about all sorts of moral issues.
But from a societal perspective, morality isn’t what it used to be, and Jefferson’s feelings about punishing homosexuals might not carry the weight of superiority given his support for things like slavery.
Poltiically, we aren’t going to be a majority party if our platform is about emasculating homosexuals. It may appeal to some of our supporters, but today’s conservatives are not going to win if our message is to use government to enforce morality to that degree.
Not that government doesn’t enforce morality, or that it would be WRONG to enforce morality in the area of homosexuality, just that at this time it’s not an issue that we can win on, and we need to work to win the battle about harm to society before we could ever argue about laws to prevent that harm.
The battle now is against the acceptance of homosexuality, and the forced indoctrination of our kids to accept homosexuality. Although that battle is largely lost unfortunately.
You have totally missed the point. The battle is far far from what you are stating. There is a bill in the House that would let Kevin Jennings MANDATE teaching gay sex to elementary school students.
Nobody is trying to push morality on gays, its the GAYS pushing their immorality down the throat of SCHOOLKIDS!!
So if we don't let them teach our kids to enjoy sodomy, then we're emasculating gays?
Your talking about battles from 1980. Conservatives are playing DEFENSE and we're on our own 5 yard line.
>And so long as speakers are discussing the harm of homosexuality, we need to encourage that, just as we need to continue to discuss the harm divorce causes to our children, adultery and sexual immorality, pornography, and the sexualization of women cause in our society.<
This is one of their polemics, and it is a false dichotomy, as people are not marching on churches etc. in protest against their stand against adultery, or porn, or using psychological tactics against them (”pornophobic”?) It is the same leftist ideology that promotes homosexuality that stands against these other issues, and the reason the homosexual activists draw heat is because of their aggressive promotion, and the cooperation of powers that be.
If partaking of the Lord’s supper (a consensual act) resulted in the death of a half a million Americans as AIDS has, due first to homosexuality and the rest to promiscuity in general, then what do you thing the reaction wold be?
That said, i am not for name calling and the gross vulgarity, but for their salvation. Yet i am forced to resist the promotion of homosexuality, which will destroy many.
NO it is NOT LOST. Either fight or get out of the way.
Check out my post #37. I wasn't advocating castrating homosexuals, I was merely making the point to some guy that was wrongly trying to invoke Jefferson as some sort of libertarian on this issue. I was pointing out to him that Jefferson actually was quite, ah, UNlibertarian on it, hence, his attempt to use the old "neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg" argument was illegitimate.