[OneVike]

This sub will be long gone if it goes in a real fight with the US Navy.

Pride always goes before the fall. Long before Rome feel, it lost its pride.

The way I see America, our pride is leading us to a path of ruin and destruction. I for one am glad that the military does not think like you, because they are spending the money it takes to figure out the problem before it becomes their defeat.

[jveritas]

This is not pride this is a fact. Few conventional torpedoes are not going to sink a US carrier or even do enough damage to stop it. You are way overrating the capability of this Swedish submarine, actually this whole thread is a joke.