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To: hoosiermama; STARWISE; Liz; SE Mom; SoCalPol
I think we all knew Rahm's behind it. Clinton used it to grab the land in Utah.

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It is quite common for US Presidents to issue executive orders that instruct federal agencies to promulgate administrative regulations in order to circumvent the legislative process in the US Congress altogether, though, as alluded to above, this can violate the US Constitution in a number of ways.

US Presidents are quite aware that US congressional politics can defeat or otherwise prevent the passage of legislation presidents deem politically important. In this regard, US Presidents have issued executive orders calling upon federal agencies, such as the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the United States Department of Energy (DOE), to issue administrative regulations where the political process of adopting congressional legislation necessary to implement multilateral environmental regulatory treaty obligations a president wishes for the US to assume would prevent US ratification of/accession to that treaty.

US Presidents, furthermore, may use an executive order or a presidential memorandum to ensure that federal courts abide by international tribunal rulings interpreting the provisions of an international treaty.

Perhaps, President Obama has in mind to pursue one or both of these uses of executive orders to ensure the US abides by any successor agreement to the Kyoto Protocol to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) and by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, even though the US has remained a non-party to both treaties for political reasons.


42 posted on 02/12/2010 8:18:31 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: onyx
this can violate the US Constitution in a number of ways.

We must realize that BO could care less if he violates the Constitution. In fact he seems determined to find ways of getting around it.

66 posted on 02/12/2010 8:42:37 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: onyx

Shlaffly / Eagle Forum
http://www.eagleforum.org/psr/2000/nov00/psrnov00.shtml
Clinton’s EO 13061, the American Heritage Rivers Initiative issued September 11, 1997, purported to give the President the power to take over 10 rivers a year. This EO on Rivers takes governing authority away from states and localities, and threatens private property rights guaranteed by the Fourth and Fifth Amendments.

Clinton’s Grand Escalante Grab of 1.7 million acres of Utah land for a national park in 1996 included a trillion dollars worth of clean-burning, low-sulfur hard coal.

I also found this blurb in google:

[Note that Lippo was a front company for Chinese intelligence which also benefitted from the multi-billion dollar Escalante hard coal scandal].
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1512537/posts?page=50

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a37d95a0809ce.htm

According to William Safire, Lippo’s ties to Jack Stephens enabled them to receive sensitive trade secrets http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a66185.htm from out of the Clinton Administration through Lippo employee, John Huang*, who also worked in the U.S. Department of Commerce as a Clinton employee. The kicker was that Huang would go across the street from his Commerce office to use a Stephens Inc. business office as a “drop” http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a1004986.htm to receive and send documents and make off the record phone calls. “At informative Thompson committee hearings last week, we learned that Huang, Lippo’s man at Clinton Commerce, received a call on the average of twice a week from a secretary at the Stephens drop who was instructed not to leave her boss’s name. Huang would then cross the street to pick up and send express packages and use the Stephens phone. We know that Huang spoke to former Lippo associates at least 237 times in his 14 months at his sensitive trade post. ‘That number troubles me’ said Senator Joseph Lieberman.

[Posted by, um, me back in 2005]


81 posted on 02/12/2010 9:29:03 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (2010 HOUSE RACES! Help everyone get the goods on their House Rats. See my profile.)
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To: onyx

And we thought 09 was a ride....He’s going to go full throttle now..and a breathtaking speed I think. There won’t be time for congress to do much because he’ll put so many irons in the fire peoples heads will spin.

On the other hand this may be his way of strong-arming congress to comply with at least some of his agenda...cracking the whip so to speak. I hope the Gop just lets him take the rope and hang himself!


119 posted on 02/12/2010 11:46:18 PM PST by caww
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