Posted on 02/08/2010 8:30:33 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
Investigating the roots of the Obama birthplace conspiracy theory, John Avlon—author of Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe Is Hijacking America, available now on Beast Books—uncovers the first Birther and finds she's a Hillary Clinton supporter also implicated in Dan Rather's exit from CBS.
(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...
True. They aren't worth the paper they are written on.
Now, an actual declaration with all signing parties responsible in a court of law for what they put on that paper, that would be different.
Along with the U.S. Senate, the House of Representatives, statutory law, the Supreme Court and the U.S. Constitution.
Technically, an American base overseas is not American territory -- like the U.S. embassy -- but it insures the legitimate American citizenship of any child borne of American parents on that base (or under its auspices).
To argue otherwise is to be wrong.
Where were you? That all happened. They even hacked into her email accounts to get info. They went after her, her children, her husband, her daughters, her friends, her church, her brother in law.
Did they miss anything???
Ah, yes. Some felonies have a statute of limitations. Three don’t...
TIMEOUT for NON SEQUITUR for use of double negatives in one sentence, making it completely irrelevant.
More like:
Obama shows Hillary a map to all the dead bodies from the Clinton cover-ups.
oops moment. sign of internet fatigue. forgive me please for the duplication.
Oops. I forgot ‘her children’s children’.
This isn’t news.
Please understand there is NO Constitutional requirement for the President to meet the qualifications for a security clearance ! Again if you are foolish enough to elect her Angela Davis could be President! (I think we did that only its a guy and its named Obama!)
The act of voting the moron into office gives them the clearance! The President is in charge of the executive branch and the executive decides what is classified and what it not ! The American people put the bank robber in charge of the bank !
There is no requirement for a politician being able to hold a clearance for holding a federal elected office. If the politician has constituents are foolish enough to put him in office, that's his clearance, granted by the constitutional act of winning an election!
Think about what politician GOP or Rat would put himself under such “clearance investigation scrutiny”, if in the course of the investigation the clearance investigator finds out something felonious the investigator is bound by law to report it!
It's the “peoples job” to vet the candidate if the people don't give a rat's pa-toot about national security then you end up with what we have now!
Anyway a pre-election clearance investigation probably could be argued against successfully as a violation of "separation of powers"! Remember the Founding Fathers always thought we would have a majority of people who would actually care about the safety of the nation!
Yet he did have to obtain a U.S. Passport just prior to getting into office.
What do you think his prior passport looked like, or had listed as his nationality?
In the case of the Senate office, I am not sure a Senator actually needs a passport or if he does, he is probably issued a “Official USG Passport”. That probably comes gratis with the office of Senator. I doubt the State Department would even ask for the documentation ! Why would they, as far as the State Department would know he was legally & constitutionally elected. Again vetted and blessed by the people !
I guarantee the State Department would never have the cajones to deny a passport to a sitting US Senator.
As far as President goes, game over he is the head of the executive branch. Again it comes with the office, I am not even sure there is such a thing as a “USG Official Presidential Passport”. The President is on official business whenever he goes anywhere by constitutional definition. The 53% that put him in office (particularly with the Enabling Democrat Congressional Majority) conferred upon him a certain amount of “It doesn't apply to me status!” that's why voting is serious business not a grand game of American Idol. Assuming there is such a thing as a presidential passport, on what grounds would the State Department have in denying a President a passport when he seemingly was constitutionally elected?
It's not the State Departments job to pass judgment on the constitutionality of an election.
As far as his prior passport, what it looks like or what nation issued it, I have no idea? It could be Indonesian, it could be US, heck it could be Martian! Since we know so little about Zero !
Well if you can prove fraud then you might have grounds for impeachment. But the only authorization he needs for his security clearance is the 365 electoral votes he got in the election.
It would 'complicate' matters for NSA and the FBI if it were known by the public that they 'bypassed' some laws to authorize Obama's security credentials.
There were no laws bypassed because the NSA and FBI didn't grant him his security clearance. That came with the office.
If you say so.
Actually according to law if you're are born of American parents in the middle of Red Square you're a natural-born citizen.
Besides, if you want to argue that an American Military Base in a foreign nation is not American Territory, you will have to talk to the U.S. Post Office.
OK I'll bite. What does the post office have to do with it?
Try and convince Uncle Chip of that.
OTOH, If BHO, Jr. were born on the White House Lawn while 4th of July Fireworks went off, as the Marine Band blew Sousa tunes, and he were subsequently baptized by a gay bishop from Connecticut, he still could not be a "Natural Born Citizen,"because the guy HE says is his father, was not an American citizen. He was an African colonial subject of the Crown.
Listen up. Not even Obama says he is "Natural Born." His working theory for us is that "Native Born" status, which is all he claims, is just as good.
If the Birthers didn't exist, Obama would have invented them.
This February 28 article is, I believe, the only article from "six months earlier" that the New York Times ran on McCain's natural born citizenship status:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html
Your description of what was contained in the article is wholly inaccurate.
Additionally, for what it's worth, the only lawsuit that was filed in spring 2008 challenging McCain's eligibility was filed by a registered Republican, not someone on the Left.
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