The argument for secession is spelled out on a monument to the Confederate war dead that stands on the grounds of the Texas Capitol.
In real Texan's minds, it's NOT fiction.
And it’s not just in Texas.
I need to visit Texas again before I need a passport to do so! :-)
Texas states rights ping!
Sorry, Austin Hatesman trash paper, the will of the people supersede the will of the Federal government...the people and states created the feds, not vice versa. Nice try, but no cigar.
“...but, obviously, she appears to believe that the legal authority to nullify is unquestionable, making it only a question of political will.”
There is nothing to nullify, really,if the fedgov were limited to it’s constitutional powers.
Funny how ‘the law’ seem to only work on one direction with some people.
I thought the civil war settled the question once and for all. The federal government rules supreme. Once you allow one state to secede where does it end? It ain’t gonna happen, such attempts will bring nothing but grief. Americans have to stop trying all these bizarro ways of fixing the washington problem. The problem lies there and that’s where it needs to be changed.
When Texas pulls the States rights lever and raises it’s collective middle finger to Washington is the day I pack up and move back. Don’t mess with Texas!
...the idea of folks taking back power scares the MSM...they move fast to try and quash talk like that.
...Texas Gov Rick Perry made a big splash this year by speaking about states rights...he just may be our next GOP presidential candidate.
“...that President Barack Obama would, like Lincoln, call on federal troops, including those stationed at Fort Hood, to arrest secessionist traitors and to fire upon their supporters. Another is that much of the rest of the country would be more than willing perhaps out-and-out delighted to live in a 49-state Union that did not include Texas.”
Spoken like a true liberal scumbag. Further proof that we can not co-exist with those filthy pigs.
If memory serves the idea that a state could nullify a federal law died in 1832.
I don’t know anything about Medina but I do know A State doesn’t need to secede in order to extricate itself from at least some of the power the federal government has grabbed for itself over the last century.
I call it “secession in place.”
Even today there are clearly programs that the only way the federal government “forces” the states to participate in is through refusing to give them money if they don’t. For example, states must participate in the federal school lunch program if they want to continue to receive federal dollars (misnomer) for education (that’s probably also a misnomer). There are many ways the States allow the federal government to intrude upon the people simply because the penalty for not volunteering such access is loss of various federal funding. It’s okay (constitutionally) for the federal government to tie the flow of federal money to its program goals, but the States do often have the power to refuse that money and do things their way, if only they will.
The question in those cases is, in fact, the political will of the State to go without the fedbucks and make it somehow on its own.
A great and fascinating website on these issues is: http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/
And that's the name of that tune.
'Nullification' is just a way of saying it politely.
Well... I’m a “natural born” Texan, since both of my parents and I were born in the Republic/State.
Those idiots in Austin that write crap like this should be living in San Francisco or some other far left enclave, as they are really an embarassment to real Texans.
Articles have been written for years about the possibility of secession by Texas. Not in the cards any time soon.
I disagree with what some have said that indicated that Federal Law overrides State law. I even heard Bill O’Reilly say that on his program a night or two ago. Not true, based on my readings over the years.
The issue is really the 10th Amendment basically states that the Federal Gov’t. has ONLY the powers granted by the Constitution and those powers do not include usurping the rights of the individual States. The Feds, for instance, would not be able to force everyone to purchase medical insurance or face fines or jail, as the Feds don’t have the right to do so. ........Many States are taking action to pass legislation that clarifies that the Feds cannot force them to accept any edict not allowed by the Constitution.
I’d suggest this putz apologist read the Tenth Amendment. While it does not specifically create a right to nullification, it certainly iterates the points the gubernatorial candidates cite.
The average level of self-delusion and fantasy on the first page of replies is just sad.
The issue of secession was conclusively decided in 1865. And playing paintball occasionally with surplus army cammies and grease-painted faces doth not a Robert E Lee make.
“secession”...”In real Texan’s minds, it’s NOT fiction.”
No, it is not. But I want no part of Secession. I want the whole thing back and the Commie Bast__ds out and tried for treason.
I know Texas has neighbors who feel the same way.
It is TIME to DownSize DC!
Eliminate entire Departments (Education, EPA, etc)
IT IS TIME!
Ooooh, I like this thread!
Could troublesome territories be ostracized into other states? For example give Chicago to Wisconsin. Or Los Angeles to Alaska.
The Mechanism for any vague nullification of an as of yet unmentioned Federal law, would have to take the form of the nullification participation by Multiple States.
I.E., it would not be just Texas. Misery loves company.
The Health Care “attempt” with its long fuse of “not effective until 2012” (don’t worry be happy) would give 50 states a long timeline to react violently with “State rights” laws (Legal or NOT). After all, the Courts move slowly when laws are reversed.
The Obama desperation of TAX now and implement later was an Assumption that Obama RULED the USA as a King, that once he passed an edict, Congress “would make it so, number one”.
So Perry and Texas, “Threatened” with a most excellent Idea for fighting Maxist laws passed in a hurry, and it helped slow down the Marxists and get cheers at the Tea Parties, but it was just a bluff, a threat, and the MSM picked it up (as designed) and spread the “ridiculous” threat.
MSM can be manipulated, and Texans can threaten DC, if DC threatens Texas.