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To: john mirse

Their website about ordering certificates includes this:

“If you are applying for a certificate on behalf of someone else, you must provide an original letter signed by that person authorizing the release of their certificate to you.”

That seems to be referring to the disclosures authorized by HRS 338-18 and indicates that the release is to you. But the Administrative Rules refer to anybody being able to get a certificate sent to the address of SOMEONE LISTED ON THE CERTIFICATE, without reference to needing authorization from them.

They also say the cost is $10 (which is actually a high enough percentage of increase in cost from the rules in effect that they should have gone through a legal process to change that - which they probably didn’t) and they won’t refund it if they deny your request.

The page where the information is given is at
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html It gives a phone number to call if you have questions. It might be better if somebody besides me called. They may shoot flames through the phone at me if they figure out who I am. lol. I don’t think I would send any money to them unless and until I had their assurance that they were going to follow their rules - and I wouldn’t hold my breath on that. Why would they all of a sudden start following their rules?

The other alternative, as I look at the actual request form, is to put on the line for “Relationship of Requestor to Person Named on Certificate” what the rules actually say and cite the rule -

e.g.
Relationship of Requestor to Person Named on Certificate:
A person (see PHR Ch 8b,2.5A(3))

and

Reason for this Request:
on behalf of (see PHR Ch 8b,2.5A(3)

If somebody is interested in pursuing this, either by calling the DOH first or by sending in $10 and seeing what they do, please let me know (if you don’t mind). I’d love to see their response.


361 posted on 02/06/2010 6:36:36 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
If somebody is interested in pursuing this, either by calling the DOH first or by sending in $10 and seeing what they do, please let me know (if you don’t mind). I’d love to see their response.

You should post this as a separate thread.
366 posted on 02/06/2010 6:59:36 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: butterdezillion
Their website about ordering certificates includes this: “If you are applying for a certificate on behalf of someone else, you must provide an original letter signed by that person authorizing the release of their certificate to you.”

That seems to be referring to the disclosures authorized by HRS 338-18 and indicates that the release is to you. But the Administrative Rules refer to anybody being able to get a certificate sent to the address of SOMEONE LISTED ON THE CERTIFICATE, without reference to needing authorization from them.

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I'm sorry, but your instructions above and in the rest of your message seem too complicated to me, an average person who uses the computer.

But if you could come up with simpler instructions that the average person like me could use, that would be nice. Sorry.

373 posted on 02/06/2010 7:29:53 AM PST by john mirse
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