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To: mosesdapoet
Oh, I pretty much agree with the sun being the major factor in determining climate. What we have in today's world are many different points of view that approach this subject. We have the AGW true believers who would like to see solar activity stay weak, because they really are worried about a warming planet. Then we have the AGW liars who want to see solar activity become strong so they can disprove the solar earth climate connection. They have been lying about the warming all along (hide the decline) and know it wont show warming when the solar cycle gets active again. Then you have solar scientists types who prefer a weak solar cycle because they are worried about solar flares. Then you have skeptics (the true scientist) who want activity to increase because they believe the world is cooling due to the recent prolonged solar minimum. You can see all these angles play out in the media. That is why the truth is so difficult to discern.

BTW - Your link seems to be having a problem. Will check it out later today.

40 posted on 02/05/2010 7:51:58 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

On my end my link kicks right in.
I don’t buy your rationale about those that support global warming. With exception of the fools who really believe man created CO2 really causes “global warming”.
However,man created CO2 polution is another matter. What better way to control that, than to jump on the “global warming” bandwagon. Unfortunately the assumptions used to control this are not based (with limited exceptions) on scientific evaluation but edicts and mandates emitting from bureaucracies which sound/feel good. Which demand excessive restrictions and controls that wind up being pertinacious. Resulting in dire unintended consequences creating hardship even disaster.

Those in the know are aware earths heating and cooling depends on solar activity amost other things, and that there is a cyclic ice/tropic variation. They believe they can conn the herd because they’re addressing lemmings.

For most Its the tax money they want to support the extavagant spending on programs, or its the grant money they get to support their life styles.


42 posted on 02/05/2010 10:40:37 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a province is to let be ruled by a professor ".. Frederick the Great")
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To: justa-hairyape; mosesdapoet
It’s one thing to gripe and complain about these things and disagree with it, but it’s quite another to convince your friends and neighbors and relatives and coworkers...

THEREFORE..., it’s also absolutely necessary for people to know the information in the following documentary. If there were simply one video that you could see and/or show people you know... this would be the one...


The following is an excellent video documentary on the so-called “Global Warming” I would recommend it to all FReepers. It’s a very well-made documentary.

“The Great Global Warming Swindle”

If you want to download it, via a BitTorrent site (using a BitTorrent client), you can get it at the following link. Information about BitTorrent protocol and BitTorrent clients and their comparison at these three links (in this sentence). Some additional BitTorrent information here and here.

Download it here...
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3635222/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
[This is a high-quality copy, of about a gigabyte in size. This link is the information about it, and you have to click the download link to get it on your BitTorrent client software. You'll also find users' comments here, too.]

It’s worth seeing and having for relatives, friends, neighbors and coworkers to see.

Also, see it online here...
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/great_global_warming_swindle.php
[this one is considerably lower quality, is a flash video and viewable online, of course..., and also, you can download flash video on a website either yourself or some software doing it.]

Buy it on DVD here...
[this would be the very highest quality version, on a DVD disk, of several gigabytes in size...] At Amazon, it seems to be high-priced now and have only a few copies right now.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WLUXZE

At WAGtv (a UK shop), but don't know about shipping. The price is reasonable, though.
https://www.wagtv.com/product/The-Great-Global-Warming-Swindle-322.html
[And..., some information from WAGtv about this item.]


Also, in split parts on YouTube...

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 1 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TqqWJugXzs

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 2 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5rGpDMN8lw

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 3 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzFL6Ixe_bo

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 4 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNQy2rT_dvU

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 5 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dzIMXGI6k8

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 6 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GjOgQN1Jco

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 7 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHI2GfbfrYw

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 8 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N9benJh3Lw

The Great Global Warming Swindle - Credits (Part 9 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_1ifP-ri58

46 posted on 02/08/2010 12:06:01 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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