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I'm sorry. I should be kinder.

You simply do not get the Christian view of morality in the slightest. If you think you do, you are so wrong it makes my head spin to think how much you don't get it.

If you want me to explain I am willing to try, but first you will have to seriously pledge to avoid dogmatic assertions of your own religious doctrines and open your mind a bit. It may take a while for you to understand, as you are quite obviously hard wired to reject super naturalistic views without any consideration.

...Now that sounds arrogant on my behalf, and I regret that it does. But I am just honestly calling it as I see it.

"If you want me to explain I am willing to try, but first you will have to seriously pledge to avoid dogmatic assertions of your own religious doctrines and open your mind a bit. It may take a while for you to understand, as you are quite obviously hard wired to reject super naturalistic views without any consideration."

I would love for you to explain.

But I have no idea why my persona conclusions should be considered "dogmatic." I have not received them from some ancient manuscript or modern prophet. I do not hold them because some authority has dictated that they are indispensable article of faith. I have reasoned to them carefully and with great effort. And if I hold great confidence that they are true, it is because they have held up to the pressure test of reality.

My rejection of supernatural explanations is not something hard wired at all. It is simply the realization that eventually any thinking person must take the information at hand and draw conclusions. It is (as the wag wrote) one thing to keep an open mind. It is another altogether to let your brains fall out on the floor.

I do not reject supernatural explanations because they are supernatural. I reject them because they are generally not explanations at all. Give me a reason to consider them and I will. But some small measure of that reason must be a demonstration that they are real.

So... since your and my sensitivity levels regarding "dogma" appear to be misaligned, it is my hope that you will show some latitude regarding statements of conviction that I make.

In response, I will be more gentle when you try to attribute to "naturalists" in general and me in particular beliefs that I do not hold. In short, please stop trying to tell me what naturalists believe. It is the only way you will be able to enhance your understanding (if not your agreement) on our position regarding morality.