“There’s a reason for that. Federal workers are better educated.”
Bullshit.
“In fact, government figures indicate that federal employees are underpaid by 26 percent compared with their counterparts in similar position in the business world.”
Is this factoring in their cadillac insurance plans, insane retirement benefit packages and job counseling, “golden parachutes” when they get bumped for political reasons and virtually fire-proof employment contracts? No, huh?
” bullshit “ ditto here. Our exact problem is the fact that these over educated asses are running our lives.
I’ll go along with your BS comment but I’ll tweak it a bit.
Gubmint workers are, at times I suggest softly, easy sources of mockery and criticism. But the mockery isn’t all undeserved.
For gubmint worker seldom, if ever, get laid off. They have holidays every other day and goodness teachers get summers off and can stay home should a snowflake fall. Gubmint workers have wonderful benefit plans and better retirement plans than thou and I.
But gubmint workers got it tough at times. The public often feels like they can dish out any derision and nastiness it wants cause they “pay your salary”. They have to work every day if it’s not a holiday. I’m quite sure they face the grind as much as us in the private sector.
The bigger problem with gubmint workers is THERE IS SO DAMN MANY OF THEM!
Don’t tell me that...hey give me a gubmint agency. And I’ll show you a work force that would be reduced in half were they a private business.
The gubmint sector has to compete for good employees same as the private sector. It’s not the workers, per se, that are the problem.
It’s their managers. It’s the layers and layers of those who want a cushy job and they design their duties so it will be that way.
So we get this horrific pyramid thing in a gubmint agency that likely should be cut in half. The poor schlub down the bottom, he’s still working and doing the job but he’s got five to ten bosses over him who do, essentially nothing.
THAT’S the kind of thing the public hates.
And we all know it’s true.
I agree that the pay and benefits for government workers needs to be adjusted. I do not believe having less educated employees in the public or private sector will result in cost savings, nor will it provide for advancements in any area. Check out the education level of third world countries and their standards of living. Hatred for government employees is an obvious position lots of Freepers hold, and to say educated people are the source of this country’s problems defies logic.
BTTT
BS indeed.
Job Growth Lacking in the Private Sector (over the last decade)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/08/business/economy/08charts.html
Despite budget cuts and layoff warnings, California still hiring and workforce still growing
http://www.sacbee.com/politics/story/2094403.html
The Sacramento Bee
Aug. 9, 2009
State job number on upswing despite recession
By George Avalos
California’s state government has managed to add thousands of jobs
during this past year, defying a mammoth budget deficit and a brutal
recession.
The job growth for state workers contrasts with the loss of 759,000
jobs in California’s private industry in the past 12 months
&http://www.mercurynews.com/topstories/ci_12984385?nclick_check=1&forced=true
Reform advocates are spotlighting those with extravagant pensions
— $100,000 or more — as a way to get the public’s attention and
emphasize that the current system is unsustainable.
http://www.modbee.com/editorials/story/803636.html
Perhaps the real reason why public-sector pension costs have not been tackled is that the full bill has never been revealed to taxpayers.
http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13988606
From The Economist print edition
July 9, 2009
EDITORIAL
Dodging the bill
The great public-sector pension rip-off
JOIN a private-sector company these days and you will be very lucky if you get a pension linked to your final salary. In Britain almost three out of four companies that retain such schemes have closed them to new employees. The cost of paying such benefits, which are partly linked to inflation and offer payouts to surviving spouses, is simply too high now that many retirees are surviving into their 80s.
Yet most new public-sector employees in Britain and America continue to benefit from pensions linked to their salaries. The pension costs facing the public sector are roughly the same as those facing the private sector; their employees are likely to live just as long. But because of the presumed largesse of future taxpayers, governments seem under much less pressure to reduce their pension costs. In 2005 a reform package in Britain raised the retirement age for new state employees, but still left existing employees able to retire at 60.
Private sector can’t afford public sector employees
http://www2.hernandotoday.com/content/2009/jul/04/050000/ha-private-sector-cant-afford-public-sector-employ/
A lot of them have BS mickey mouse degrees from diploma mills. If someone is really smart - they are not going to work for the Feds. Who would want to be in a stifling environment - people who want security and want to goof off.
Federal workers get “survivor” pay for getting through the application process? Has anyone ever applied for a government job; the application process is a blizzard of forms to complete.
Better educated? These people are bumblers. Tell me an IRS worker is better educated?
If my experience at the DMV is any indication of a government workers justifiable salary and benefits, then I am in the wrong business.
I went to DMV for license renewal. One requirement is passing the eye exam.
The very nice young lady, who was originally from Vietnam, asked me to read the 5th line on the eye chart.
she then asked if I wear glasses. Of I laughed and said “No, why?”
“Well you didn’t pass that line” she said.
I said “you are kidding right?”
She said she wasn’t but we needed to proceed with the left eye and again she asked I read the 5th line.
No problem.
I was then informed I had not passed the eye exam and would need a doctors prescription or a note from Epstein’s mother or something. I didn’t understand her broken English but I knew I had passed it and was re-reading the lines while she told me this.
She insisted on my getting glasses or whatever and I told her in no uncertain terms I would not be wearing glasses and I had read the lines again while she was explaining their requirements.
There is no way I failed and I could clearly see the letters.
She took a stand and I asked for supervisor, at which point she took offense to my challenging her.
Supervisor came up and immediately took sides with her underling. I told them it was unacceptable to ask me to take a test, which I passed and then insist I need glasses as a requirement to renew my license.
She said that it was a safety issue. At this point I made it clear I wasn’t coming back and that someone needed their head examined. I then repeated the lines with each eye closed and demanded they change the requirement.
They both dug in and I said I have had it.
“I want to see the most senior person here today, now” I demanded.
Some real nice lady came up and each side explained our position. She asked to me read the line again, which I did.
All of a sudden a confused look came across her face and she said I was not suppose the read the 5th line I was suppose to read the 4th line, which of course has even bigger letters.
I pointed that out and said “Great! Now can I have my license?”
She said “No you’ll need to read and pass the 4th line”.
I politely gritted my teeth “Are you serious? Obviously if I can read the 5th line I can read any line above it”.
The other two idiots had their mouths open realizing they had asked me to read the wrong line and it didn’t add up to their “DMV for Dummies” template.
The “real nice lady” took me aside and said “It’s obvious you have no eye problems” “And could I beg you a favor?”
“What, like making me waste a couple of more hours?”
“I am not going to wear glasses because I don’t need them, I just had my eyes checked and the Dr. said I have better than 20/20. Moreover, I don’t want to wear them!”
“If I where in your position I would feel the same way” she said.
“But, I work with these people and they are not from the same culture and they lean on union representatives for all kinds of invented grievances” “I will deal with them later, I promise you, but if we could give them a win....?”
“Better be quick” I said.
“You are in a private fast lane” “You will be out of here with your renewal in 5 minutes” she said.
I went back read the lines real quick so they had to keep up with me and the nice lady hand walked my results and the process to the next two stations. One of them said “Oh, you are very fast. Could you slow...”
I cut em off and said “Deal with it”
I was done in 7 minutes. Real nice lady.
Dumb Government workers and not worth whatever they are paid.