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To: Fred Nerks; rxsid; El Gato; RummyChick; LucyT
"There's nothing we have seen that proves they were ever married...and come to think of it, there's nothing we have ever seen (other than one photo at an airport) that shows they were even ACQUAINTED!"

Leo Donofrio has taken his site down, but from another site, here is the vital record index for the Dunham-Obama marriage that HI released. Amateur investigators had actually demanded all records for BHO II, but inadvertently got BHO Sr's vital record index for his marriage to Stanley Ann Dunham.

My understanding is that vital record indexes only exist for marriage events recorded, not for licenses issued. The actual details of the record, including the image, date and location of the marriage are still protected from release to the general public under privacy law for something like 75 years, if I remember correctly.

http://starmaker.today.com/2009/10/02/hawaiian-officials-playing-more-hide-and-seek-games-about-obamas-vital-records/

BIRTH INDEX

OFFICE OF HEALTH STATUS MONITORINGCHILD

OBAMA II, BARACK HUSSEIN

GENDER

M

MARRIAGE INDEX

SORTED BY BRIDE

OFFICE OF HEALTH STATUS MONITORING

GROOM

OBAMA, BARACK HUSSEIN

BRIDE

DUNHAN, STANLEY ANN

97 posted on 02/05/2010 8:57:30 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
And I recall that when that information was included by Okubo, everyone said, 'now why would she do that' - as it wasn't asked for.

I think I understand why, now.

THERE'S A BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ON THE MARRIAGE INDEX.

-that probably relates to when he married the young woman he brought to Hawaii with him. She's shown standing next to him on arrival, and because he has his arm around her and she around him, they loaded the image up with lei to cover their closeness:

You will notice that Stanley Armour Dunham is there to greet them.

The same young woman is shown sitting next to him in the group image below, identified as ANN:

And STANLEY ANN DUNHAM BRIDE is on the marriage index from when she married LOLO SOETORO.

Cunning move, Okubo.

100 posted on 02/05/2010 9:40:46 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Actually, they only SAID the records are protected from disclosure. In actual fact, the Administrative Rules say that anybody who wants can get a non-certified copy of a marriage certificate for anybody they want. Death and abbreviated birth certificates too.

They just don’t want to follow their rules. They say that the rules are overridden by HRS 338-18 because statutes trump rules. BUT 338-18(a) only prohibits disclosures that ARE NOT ALREADY AUTHORIZED BY STATUTE OR BY DOH RULES. So the two are not in conflict. 338-18(a) refers one to the rules to find out what disclosures are authorized.

What 338-18(a) is trying to prevent is precisely what Fukino did - revealing an item from a certificate without the DOH having to certify what they’re saying and being legally accountable for telling the truth.

I have asked for the non-certified copies of both SAD and Madelyn’s death certificates, the marriage certificate of SAD and BHO, and the abbreviated birth certificate for Obama. The DOH has refused all of them. The ombudsman says their response is reasonable because the rules say they MAY (rather than “shall”) release copies, but UIPA says that if something has been specifically authorized for release then it MUST be released. The ombudsman’s office said if I think I’ve been wrongly denied I should take it to the Office of Information Practices (OIP - the watchdog for government transparency). But the OIP is referring all questions of what the DOH needs to do..... to the DOH.

A small sampling of why it’s taken me thousands of hours just to figure out what little I know so far.

The next step in the process is a lawsuit, but right now we have neither the funds nor the Hawaiian legal counsel to be able to do that. If we had those there’s already a good case that Hawaii law demands Fukino to reveal all the documents she relied upon to make the July 27 statement regarding Obama being a “natural-born American citizen”. If we can find anybody who’s willing to enforce the laws in Hawaii, all of Obama’s documentation should be publicly available.

Again, that is why this is a law enforcement issue, IMHO. At least part of what Berg, Taitz, and others have been asking to see is REQUIRED for the DOH to release to ANYBODY WHO ASKS, now that Fukino made her July 27 statement. There is no issue of standing. The only issue is whether there is a judge who is willing to follow the law and people who are able to file the suit.


102 posted on 02/06/2010 5:58:16 AM PST by butterdezillion
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