Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]

Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

[JustPiper]

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC

[ExTexasRedhead]

Zero is going around to sell his Genocide of the unborn, the elderly, cancer patients, and enemies of his dictatorship. Kind of like Hitler going around and telling the Jews he’s their friend.

[mo]

“Call and offer to help the traitor Stupak pack his belongings early and update his resume. Are there jobs out there for Traitors to one’s country??? I sure hope there are at least 219 of them because there are 219 Traitors gonna be looking for a job and a place where they’re not despised.”

IMHO...a goal the Tea Party should set for itself...should be the defeat of each and every one of these representatives....and none other.

the Oligarchy needs to see who REALLY runs this country...

[SoldierDad]

It does apparently exist based on existing SCOTUS decisions:

<.i>Introduction

The preemption doctrine derives from the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution which states that the "Constitution and the laws of the United States...shall be the supreme law of the land...anything in the constitutions or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding." This means of course, that any federal law--even a regulation of a federal agency--trumps any conflicting state law.

Preemption can be either express or implied. When Congress chooses to expressly preempt state law, the only question for courts becomes determining whether the challenged state law is one that the federal law is intended to preempt. Implied preemption presents more difficult issues. The Court has to look beyond the express language of federal statutes to determine whether Congress has "occupied the field" in which the state is attempting to regulate, or whether a state law directly conflicts with federal law, or whether enforcement of the state law might frustrate federal purposes.

Federal "occupation of the field" occurs, according to the Court in Pennsylvania v Nelson (1956), when there is "no room" left for state regulation. Courts are to look to the pervasiveness of the federal scheme of regulation, the federal interest at stake, and the danger of frustration of federal goals in making the determination as to whether a challenged state law can stand.

There is more

Info here

[ExTexasRedhead]

Signs should go up across the street from every one of their district offices.

Congressman/Traitor _______________ start packing, you’re out of our government come November.

[Doogle]

eyep, he hits the campaign trail again shortly pushing his health care plan.........still.

[ExTexasRedhead]

Even Oseph Goebbel’s couldn’t help Zero hide his obvious treason and premeditated elimination of classes of Americans.

[Doogle]

I would imagine white liquid shoe polish is going to become a big seller before long.....it’s easy to remove from your car after protest and general “gatherings”...*smiles*

[MestaMachine]

Just totally went out cold last night. Dumbstruck!
Not my usual reaction to things, but had to settle me down. Vae napping late now. Played in the rain and had fun today.
Up for later tonight. I have a LOT to say, but no time now.

I checked in to FR earlier today and could not take the wallowing. I am not about doom. We are at war and this is a skirmish. Flesh wounds heal quickly. I have contended with wounds that should have killed me but my will is strong and I am still standing. The real battle is still ahead of us and I will be double-damned if selfpity and pessimism is gonna win this day or any other day.

Today I saw people saying it’s all over. I am here to tell them, and anyone else who thinks it, that this kind of thinking makes it a self-fulfilling prophecy. Believe you are doomed, and you doom yourself. Never give up, and never give in.

NEVER!

I believe!

[MestaMachine]

Have friends overseas that do not understand why the US cannot do what they did in Honduras. Spent quite awhile trying to explain.
The POWER lies with the PEOPLE, not the miltary. That is the express purpose of the Constitution.
WE the PEOPLE. Above the congress. Above the presidency. Above the military. AND above the courts if we are betrayed.
That is the way it was laid out, and that is the way this will end.

[MestaMachine]

Except Hitler didn’t do that. abu bama does JUST that. Even when we know better. At least Hitler was honest about it.

[MestaMachine]

REPEAL THE EFFING BILL!!!
NOW!!!

[BossLady]

Kiwi/Sara Lee Corp trading at $13.90/NYSE right now.... ;)

[reasonisfaith]

Yeah, I’m gonna repeal somebody’s a$$ in November, or whenever seems like a good time to do it.

[justiceseeker93]

Stupak’s surrender and his gyrations in waving a piece of paper before his audience have had some commentators comparing him to Neville Chamberlain, who was the infamous Btit PM who signed the Munich Pact with Nazi Germany in 1938.

[Quix]

AMEN! AMEN!

sustains . . . may end up seeming like a bleak word.

Yea though Believers walk through the valley of the shadow of death . . .

[Quix]

THX 4 THE BTTT

in behalf of Piper’s hard work and info.

[azishot]

Thanks for the response, SoldierDad.

Sounds like there’s just as good a chance that we can win this as not. The poster I was referring to made it sound like it would automatically get thrown out. Of course, that was his opinion. I want to remain much more optimistic.

(BTW...how are the babies and the family? Must really be getting big!)

[azishot]

You are signature number 34143.

Done! We're on the way to a million!!

[JustPiper]

Devil-in-Chief to declare Martial Law

~Therein lies the crux...I’m sure it has been their plan all along

[JustPiper]

Every constitutional lawyer has a different slant

Me personally, I have to have faith & not naysay, tis all I have

Here’s the contradictions

Is Health Care Reform Constitutional?
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/03/20/is-health-care-reform-constitutional/#pageTitle

Can ObamaCare be repealed?
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/22/can-obamacare-be-repealed/

What They’ve Done Can Be Undone
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/03/22/what-theyve-done-can-be-undone/

VA AG SC INDIVIDUAL MANDATE IN HC PROVISION TO FORCE YOU TO BUY HC NOT CONSTITUTIONAL . When BO fILES 11:15 then AG’S FILE 11:16

Attorneys general in 11 states poised to challenge healthcare bill
As soon as President Obama signs the healthcare bill into law, the attorneys general say they will challenge its constitutionality. The mandate to buy insurance is at the center of the controversy.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2010/0322/Attorneys-general-in-11-states-poised-to-challenge-healthcare-bill

Outlook: Is health-care reform unconstitutional?
Health care will not be repealed until both houses of Congress and the presidency is held by politicians who ran on that platform.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2010/03/19/DI2010031902926.html

Can States Just Say No To Federal Health Insurance Mandates?
http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Can-States-Just-Say-No-To-Federal-Health-Insurance-Mandates-1926025.html