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Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]
Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

Posted on 01/25/2010 11:27:02 PM PST by JustPiper

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC


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PS Ed Pastor

Voting Record

181 posted on 01/28/2010 10:38:54 AM PST by JustPiper
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To: JustPiper

You’re quite welcome, dear JustPiper!


182 posted on 01/28/2010 10:40:00 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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Congressman Xavier Becerra

Website

The socialists are in this battle for the long haul. They never give up- DSA Member

Barack Obama has chosen a second cabinet member embroiled in Bill Clinton’s deplorable last-minute pardons, this week a California politician who orchestrated the commutation of a jailed drug dealer whose father was a major campaign donor.

Judicial Watch

Obama Cabinet Pick Helps Free Drug Dealer

Opposed ACORN Investigation

ScandalFace Up to It, Rep. Becerra

Voting Record

183 posted on 01/28/2010 10:52:20 AM PST by JustPiper
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Not even 24 hours after SOTU, a snake sheds it's skin

WASHINGTON (AP) Democratic-controlled Senate approves raising government borrowing limit by $1.9 trillion.

184 posted on 01/28/2010 11:00:54 AM PST by JustPiper
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Every Senate Democrat voted to raise debt limit to $14.3 trillion
By Michelle Malkin

Every Senate Democrat voted to raise the debt limit to $14.3 trillion. The vote was 60-40 on straight partisan lines.

Let me repeat that — and let it be repeated loudly and often:

Every Senate Democrat voted to raise the debt limit to $14.3 trillion.

That’s $45,000 per American.

Here’s the roll call vote:

http://michellemalkin.com/


185 posted on 01/28/2010 11:02:42 AM PST by JustPiper
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186 posted on 01/28/2010 11:09:39 AM PST by JustPiper
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To: JustPiper

Go to www.Ruth4az.com A rocket scientist who’s running for RAOOOOOL’s seat.


187 posted on 01/28/2010 12:16:06 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (Diversity kills)
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To: JustPiper

Screamin’ meemie, is a great analogy...haven’t heard that wonderful expression in a few years. >:-}

It was the name given to certain German artillery projectiles from WW2.

The loud, shrill howling noise of the incoming rockets led American soldiers in the Sicily campaign to give it the nicknames “Screaming Meemie” and “Moaning Minnie.”

“Moaning Minnie” reminds of a...oh forget it, not a proper subject for this thread. >:-}


188 posted on 01/28/2010 12:26:02 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Is the dist anywhere near you? Can you volunteer for her to unseat him? Does she stand any chance?


189 posted on 01/28/2010 5:01:00 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: JustPiper; All

Thanks very much for the ping. I just finished reading every post. OUTSTANDING thread! Thanks to all posters/linkers/researchers/educators/commentators. BTTT!


190 posted on 01/28/2010 5:07:19 PM PST by PGalt
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To: PGalt

Hearing this from you I am thrilled! TY!


191 posted on 01/28/2010 5:51:11 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: blackie
Toyko Rose -g-
192 posted on 01/28/2010 5:52:21 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: JustPiper

From my home page – 2005

America’s Mein Kampf
 
Most of the citizens of America do not comprehend what is happening to their country. The changes we see in America did not happen overnight. We hear people remark over and over “It wasn’t like this when I was a kid!”, “What is happening to my countery?”.
Today you can see that the Socialists are repeating the same strategy on Iraq they used on the Vietnam war, “Make the people think we are loosing the war, it is costing too much, etc.”. If the people of America would open their eyes they would see there are Socialists ALL AROUND THEM! The Democrats don’t deny they are Socialists, they just don’t talk about it too much. The Democratic Party was taken over by the Socialists subversives many years ago. Zell Miller said it best: “There are strangers living in my basement…” Those strangers took over the Democrat Party!!
The old “Frog in a pan of water” comparison fits very well to what is taking place. Our principals, our morality and our Constitution are under assault and half of the citizens of our country do not see it. Some of these “45 goals” being achieved are:
Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press
Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history
Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
“What is happening to my country” started over forty years ago. The changes to be made were charted out and documented in the: Communist Goals (1963). The many groups of Socialist front groups have achieved most of the items listed in the “Communists Goals”.
            They are working with other socialist countries and for the UN. The goal is to damage the United States of America with every opportunity either real or made up. We must make the people see who the Socialists are and what they want to do to America.
Does anyone remember the phrase/term “Parliamentary Pirates” from the “1950s? The communists used every obscure rule and by law to take over union meetings and then the unions themselves. This is still happening today. The majority controlled by a minority.
We have to quit calling them “Progressive, Liberal, Left Wing, Democrats, “Rinos” etc”. They are SOCIALISTS DAMN IT!!!!  Yes, “THEY” have been busy for YEARS! This is a perfect example of incrementalism, “Social or political gradualism”.
History tells us how this started. The Mc Carthy hearings were stopped before they were complete. The many “seeds” (read CELLS) were left to grow and multiply. Ronald Reagan and Walt Disney both testified at these hearings: 
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6458/
Mr. REAGAN: “Well, sir . . . 99 percent of us are pretty well aware of what is going on…  ….with their usual tactics, trying to run a majority of an organization with a well organized minority”.
Mr. DISNEY: “In my opinion they are Communists. No one has any way of proving those things.”
The young radicals of the 60’s were financed supported and directed by foreign communists/socialists. They have become college professors, teachers, lawyers, politicians, clergy, news and entertainment media and the business world elite. They are “educating” and recruiting our young for their replacements.
They have gotten environmental and regulatory control (NGO’s) over most businesses, resources of water, forests, oil, farming, ranching and mining in order to eliminate their profits and shut them down.
They are in the process of bankrupting the people and government with lawsuits, social programs, financing the UN and foreign countries, environmental programs and out-right GIVING money to socialist front (ACLU) groups which attack us.
They are eliminating our jobs as much as they can with the above methods and with foreign treaties and international laws.
If the people of America would open their eyes they would see there are Socialists ALL AROUND THEM! The Democrats don’t deny they are Socialists, they just don’t talk about it too much.
Dean: Socialist victory equals win for Dems         “The media, Gov. Dean, and the Democratic Party at large may not find it objectionable that Dean endorsed the current-day equivalent of the Kremlin to run for the U.S. Senate.”
Democratic Socialists of America’s Progressive Caucus of the U.S. House of Representatives
Taken verbatim from the Internet web site of the Democratic Socialists of America
The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) is the largest socialist organization in the United States, and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International. DSA’s members are building progressive movements for social change while establishing an openly socialist presence in American communities and politics.
What is Democratic Socialism?
Question: Aren’t you a party that’s in competition with the Democratic Party for votes and support?
No, we are not a separate party. Like our friends and allies in the feminist, labor, civil rights, religious, and community organizing movements, many of us have been active in the Democratic Party. We work with those movements to strengthen the party’s leftwing, represented by the Congressional Progressive Caucus.
 Neil Abercrombie
(MEMBER, HAWAII-01)
Raul Grijalva
(MEMBER, ARIZONA-07)
Ed Pastor
(MEMBER, ARIZONA-02)
Tammy Baldwin
(MEMBER, WISCONSIN-02)
Luis Gutierrez
(MEMBER, ILLINOIS-04)
Nancy Pelosi
(MEMBER, CALIF. -08)
Xavier Becerra
(MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-30)
Maurice Hinchey
(MEMBER, NEW YORK-26)
Bobby Rush
(MEMBER, ILLINOIS-01)
Corrine Brown
(MEMBER, FLORIDA-03)
Jesse Jackson, Jr
(OFFICER, ILLINOIS-02)
Bernie Sanders
(OFFICER, VERMONT)
Sherrod Brown
(MEMBER, OHIO-13)
Sheila Jackson-Lee
(MEMBER, TEXAS-18)
Jan Schakowsky
(MEMBER, ILLINOIS-09)
Michael Capuano
(MEMBER, MASS. -08)
Stephanie Tubbs Jones
(MEMBER, OHIO-11)
Jose Serrano
(MEMBER, NEW YORK-16)
Julia Carson
(MEMBER, INDIANA-10)
Marcy Kaptur
(MEMBER, OHIO-09)
Hilda Solis
(OFFICER, CALIF. -31)
William “Lacy” Clay
(MEMBER, MISSOURI-01)
Dennis Kucinich
(CO-CHAIR, OHIO-10)
Pete Stark
(MEMBER, CALIF. -13)
John Conyers
(MEMBER, MICH. -14)
Tom Lantos
(MEMBER, CALIF. -12)
Bennie Thompson
(MEMBER, MISSISSIPPI-02)
Danny Davis
(MEMBER, ILLINOIS-07)
Barbara Lee
(CO-CHAIR, CALIF. -09)
John Tierney
(MEMBER, MASS. -06)
Peter DeFazio
(OFFICER, OREGON-04)
John Lewis
(MEMBER, GEORGIA-05)
Tom Udall
(MEMBER, NEW MEX. -03)
Rosa DeLauro
(MEMBER, CONN. -03)
Jim McDermott
(MEMBER, WASH. -07)
Nydia Velazquez
(MEMBER, NEW YORK-12)
Lane Evans
(MEMBER, ILLINOIS-17)
James P. McGovern
(MEMBER, MASS. -03)
Maxine Waters
(MEMBER, CALIF. -35)
Eni Faleomavaega
(MEMBER, AMERICAN SAMOA)
George Miller
(MEMBER, CALIF. -07)
Diane Watson
(MEMBER, CALIF. -32)
Sam Farr
(MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-17)
Jerry Nadler
(MEMBER, NEW YORK-08)
Mel Watt
(MEMBER, NORTH CAROLINA-12)
Chaka Fattah
(MEMBER, PENNSYLVANIA-02)
Eleanor Holmes Norton
(MEMBER, D.C.)
Henry Waxman
(MEMBER, CALIF. -29)
Bob Filner
(MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-50)
John Olver
(MEMBER, MASS. -01)
Lynn Woolsey
(VICE-CHAIR, CALIF. -06)
Barney Frank
(MEMBER, MASS. -04)
Major Owens
(OFFICER, NEW YORK-11)
 
 
Today you can see that the Socialists are repeating the same strategy they used on the Vietnam war. They are attempting to remove our support for our troops in Iraq, “Make the people think we are loosing the war, it is costing too much, etc.”.
The Democratic Party was taken over by the Socialists subversives many years ago. Zell Miller said it best: “There are strangers living in my basement…” I believe the Socialists are those strangers he was referring to that took over the Democrat Party. They are working with other socialist countries and for the UN. The goal is to damage the United States of America with every opportunity either real or made up.
We must make the American people see who the Socialists are and what they want to do to America. Does anyone remember the phrase/term “Parliamentary Pirates” from the “1950s? The communists used every obscure rule and by law to take over union meetings and eventually the unions themselves. This is still happening today, “The majority controlled by a minority”.
We have to quit calling them “Progressive, Liberal, Left Wing, Democrats, Special interest groups, etc”. They are SOCIALISTS DAMN IT!!!!  They want to destoy America. Yes, “THEY” have been busy for YEARS! This is a perfect example of incrementalism, “Social or political gradualism”.
 
America’s Mein Kampf
We have been told AGAIN what is coming. Is anyone LISTENING??


193 posted on 01/28/2010 5:55:04 PM PST by Not a 60s Hippy (They are SOCIALISTS, not Progressive, Liberal, Left Wing, Democrats, Special interest groups.)
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To: JustPiper

Here’s hoping.


194 posted on 01/28/2010 5:55:43 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: GlennBeck08; blackie
Relevant news of the day

Health Care: Like a movie vampire, big-government health reform keeps coming back to sink its teeth into a resistant America's throat. Voter power has left the Democrats' plans near dead, but near isn't good enough.
The axiom "the people rule" came to life in Massachusetts when our system of government, which is so often so frustrating, stopped the Washington juggernaut carrying America toward socialized medicine.
Not Dead Yet

This is the sound of President Obama's health-care reform bill crashing to earth:
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Tuesday: "We're not on health care now. We talked a lot about it in the past."
Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein: "It's a time out."
The bill's advocates can't believe this is happening. They elected a popular and charismatic Democratic president. With him came a filibuster-proof congressional majority. Done deal. Write the bill, vote it into everlasting life, and burn votive candles to Franklin Roosevelt's unfinished national entitlement legacy.
Why ObamaCare Isn't Flying It was foolish of President Obama to think he could reform 16% of the nation's economy.

We are speeding toward an economic cliff because our government can't practice restraint.
We spend so much more than we take in because politicians at every level use the public treasury to win elections. The public mostly accepts lavish promises of more and more federal spending because the cost of government has been so effectively divorced from what actually comes out of our paychecks.
The Second American Tax Revolt by Michael Reagan

Rep. Paul Ryan is re-introducing legislation in Congress today — amid criticism that his is ‘a party of no’ — to offer Republican alternatives to health care and spending the same day President Barack Obama will deliver his State of the Union address to Congress.
Rep. Paul Ryan to introduce alternative to health care and spending

The only thing missing was quills and powdered wigs.
Eleven House conservatives on Wednesday signed a “Declaration of Health Care Independence” at an event staged by Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), and there was no shortage of Revolutionary War rhetoric and tea party references.
Conservatives sign 'Declaration'

YOU TUBE Glenn Beck: I've never been so outraged by a president

195 posted on 01/28/2010 6:12:39 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: BunnySlippers

~Stay tuned Bunny


196 posted on 01/28/2010 6:13:38 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: Not a 60s Hippy
YOU are a jewel NOT a hippy. Thank you so very much for your profile page! It shows your dedication to exposing them. We are obligated to do our best to stop them in their tracks. Today young people are mostly oblivious & many are unaware of the perils they face. The promises of socialism may sound good to them. Back in HS in the late 60s, I saw how easily young people were being swayed with the LIES.

Again thank you for taking the time to add to this warehouse of exposure & reference

197 posted on 01/28/2010 6:24:25 PM PST by JustPiper
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Attention Californians

Judy Chu
Home Page

The Progressive Caucus

Story of the first Chinese-American to reach high position in the US government. Wu wrote a 1956 account of the Chinese Communist economy, and a 1997 history of the rise and fall of Chinese Communism
Junzi, a Man of Virtue: The Biography of Yuan-li Wu by Judy Chu

Observation: Getting rid of all the socialist members in CA, is like getting rid of all the Illegal aliens

198 posted on 01/28/2010 10:48:05 PM PST by JustPiper
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CA.

Sam Farr
Office Of

PDF DSA/ AMERICAN SOCIALIST VOTER

Come on Monterey! You can send him home! The Progressive Caucus

The Socialists In The United States Congress

EARMARK-Next BIG Dem purchase in the works:County on brink of landmark railroad purchase, but can we afford it?

But we know that if Cuba posed such a clear and present danger to the United States, that President Obama would not have relaxed some travel and other restrictions on Cuba, as he did last year. Representatives like Jose Serrano and Sam Farr have called for building on that momentum to change stagnant, ineffective policies toward Cuba.
Supports Cuba

Voting Record

199 posted on 01/28/2010 11:05:57 PM PST by JustPiper
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Action Blitz next few posts
First Up-National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA)
Health Care Update - LET'S FINISH THE FIGHT
Health Policy Update: The Battle [Behind Closed Doors] Continues. You may have noticed that White House officials have started talking a lot about banking reform and economic recovery
. There's a reason for that: the unpopularity of government-run health care.
President Obama: "Never Again Will the American Taxpayer be Held Hostage by a Bank that is 'Too Big to Fail'"

Gibbs: Obama Has 'a Plan' for Economy

Don't Be Fooled! NCPA President Dr. John Goodman was exactly right in his recent Health Alert when he wrote, "Democrats will not try to go into the fall election empty-handed." On Capitol Hill, health care negotiations continue unabated. Consider the following:
* Fact #1: The Senate Doesn't Have to Vote Again on Health Care. The Senate approved government-run health in its now-infamous Christmas Eve vote. The only thing preventing government-run health care is the Pelosi-led House of Representatives.
* Fact #2: House Moderates Want Safety. Voter ire has moderate House Democrats fearful. While at the moment they want to stop talking about health care, at some point House moderates will have to decide whether to pass legislation and defend it before the voters or abandon it and apologize for the colossal waste of time. Pelosi will make the case to House moderates that the safest course is to show strength, not contrition.
* Fact #3: House Liberals Want Change. Months of delay have liberal House Democrats feeling betrayed. Despite Senate foot-dragging, they know that they're closer than ever before to realizing the dream of government-run health care. Pelosi will make the case to House liberals that the wisest course is to cut a deal with the Senate.
* Fact #4: The Senate Can Pass a Clean-Up Measure with 51 Votes. Senate Majority leader Harry Reid holds an ace up his sleeve: a reconciliation vote. If the House passes the Senate version of government-run health care, the Senate could subsequently pass separate, modifying legislation with only 51 votes. All it takes for that plan to work is Pelosi convincing House moderates that it's safe and House liberals that it's wise.

* The First Punch: Contact the Stupak Supporters. Sixty-four House Democrats supported the Stupak (abortion) amendment - legislation that doesn't exist in the Senate version and is unlikely to make it through on reconciliation. As such, these House members might vote against government-run health care if convinced.
* The Shot to the Body: Write the Disloyal Opposition. Sixteen House Democrats opposed the overall bill but voted for it on partisan lines. They're ripe for well-placed letters, phone calls, emails and member visits.
* The Knock-Out Blow: Collar the Blue Dogs. Eleven House Democrats are self-described moderates. While they supported the bill during Round 1, Round 15 is getting close-and they may be ready for a change we can believe in.
“Action Pack” Resource Page

Remember: IT AIN'T OVER! The headlines are encouraging, but the proponents of government-run health care still have power and are trying to convince their colleagues that the American people really aren't as upset as all that. Congress needs to hear your voice


200 posted on 01/29/2010 12:04:17 AM PST by JustPiper
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