Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]

Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

[JustPiper]

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC

[stephenjohnbanker]

“Slaughter has to be watching her back”

And her windows tooooooooooooooooooo!

[molybdenum]

I believe they are serious! Good on them. Welcome to the fight, Hillbuzz!

[MestaMachine]

Happens all the time. They send out alerts before they get the story up. No prob. It IS a confirmation tho.

My typin’ fingers is gettin’ numb. I think I am doing caps, only to look up and see I haven’t hit the shift key as hard as I thot i did. Yiiiiieeee!
See?

[molybdenum]

Probably stocking up on sleep meds. I hope she has nightmares. I hope they all do. (How could anybody who has to look at Pelousy every day NOT have them??)

[thouworm]

I think they are dead serious. This was AmitysChild’s great find & I have the OK to post independent thread on all of this-—which I will do on Monday (when things are calmer?)

I think this is akin to “breaking news”

[azishot]

Bless your heart for being so diligent on this thread. Was out working in the yard and came inside for a break.

I knew this was gonna be a looong weekend. Kinda skimmed through the thread and saw that your trip to D.C. didn’t come off. God bless you for trying. You’re doing a great job here.

Back to work now...

[MestaMachine]

Thanks for the update. Good news but this is mindbending stuff.

[thouworm]

Update 3-20, 5:36 PM: Jim Matheson is a NO. Giving his brother a nomination to the federal judiciary apparently did not sway his vote.

Update 3-20, 5:08 PM: Zack Space is a NO. The question is, did Pelosi just give him permission to vote no because she’s split the Stupak group and got enough votes? Space is the third confirmed yes-to-no flip outside of the Stupak group.

Update 3-20, 5:00 PM: If you want to know a little more about the members believed in play, this article is a good place to start. Note that, since the article was written, Carney and DeFazio have now committed for the bill.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/88035-the-20-house-dems-who-will-decide-fate-of-healthcare-reform
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I don’t know how current the names on the Hill’s list are so I did not post them yet.

[MestaMachine]

I’ll say! If they even do HALF what they said they would do, it could shift the earth on its axis!!!

[thouworm]

Gingrey made an appearance on the channel earlier today,
(when he said that).

I sure would like to see a recent comment stating that.

[stephenjohnbanker]

I don’t know how they can even look in a mirror.

[MestaMachine]

You WILL ping me, right?

[thouworm]

“...it could shift the earth on its axis!!!”

My thoughts exactly. They have already started!

[Links for your spare time :-) -— if you haven’t already seen them]

More proof going after Big Donors is the way to take down the Left: ACORN Example
http://hillbuzz.org/2010/03/20/more-proof-going-after-big-donors-is-the-way-to-take-down-the-left-acorn-example/

Who are Louise Slaughter’s main political funding sources?
http://hillbuzz.org/2010/03/20/who-are-louise-slaughters-main-political-funding-sources/

[MestaMachine]

So here is what we know for sure:
IF there is a vote tomorrow, pelosi has the votes.
What we don’t know:
If there is NO vote tomorrow, I THINK this bill might be dead.
I don’t see how they can go home and still come back and vote for this thing. or aren’t they going home?
I am SO confused!

[thouworm]

of course!!!!

[MestaMachine]

This is YOUR baby, thou. When you post it on Monday, whenever, ping me. This is history in the making and I dang sure want to be there.

[MestaMachine]

OK
i am getting slaphappy here.

[thouworm]

Here is the thread for this. No one believes it; Freepers demanding proof, and so far, none found.

Health Care Protesters Hurl Verbal Epithets at Black Lawmakers
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2475614/posts

[stephenjohnbanker]

“I am SO confused!”

This can happen when the most prosperous, most free nation on earth turns into a banana republic in just 14 months.

[stephenjohnbanker]

“I don’t see how they can go home and still come back and vote for this thing. or aren’t they going home?”

I’m sure many aren’t looking forward to it ;-)