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You would have it that our only choices are between demonrats and RINOs. I reject that assumption.

Well put. I agree.

I find this race, and this thread, frankly, to be a very interesting case study on the state of the Republican Party, and of the so-called conservative movement.

I find this race, and this thread, frankly, to be a very interesting case study on the state of the Republican Party, and of the so-called conservative movement.

Barak Obama 70%, Alan Keyes 27%.

Says everything that needs to be said about what Keyes' opinion is worth on this subject. Alan Keyes hasn't won an election in his life - he never topped 40 percent in his two Maryland senate runs, either.

Well put. I agree.

And when Eternalviggy and DSC can convince 51% of the people in Massachussetts to get right on abortion with y'all, then they will be ready for a true pro-life conservative candidate.

Explain to me this map.

Those Blue areas that went for pro-death Coakley. How exactly do you win those with a Pat Robertson fire-breathing social conservative?

“I find this race, and this thread, frankly, to be a very interesting case study on the state of the Republican Party, and of the so-called conservative movement.”

If this site were a Republican site, you may have had a point. Supposedly, this is a Conservative site, thus your point falls completely flat.

Exit question: Is Alan Keyes just a horrible candidate, or is he just TOO Conservative to win in the liberal states he's run? Has he even come CLOSE to winning national office?

As a part of his campaign, I'll be interested in your response.

I find this race, and this thread, frankly, to be a very interesting case study on the state of the Republican Party, and of the so-called conservative movement.

I've been thinking the same thing all morning as I debate with fellow conservatives, and I realize how differently people within our movement view reality. I feel like this is a conversation that needs to occur within conservatism, and by extension, within the GOP. Some people seem to think that anybody with a "R" next to their name is better than the alternative. For the party, I agree 100%, but for conservatism, I am far from convinced. The strawman arguments of seen about Keyes never winning are true, but IMO, they are a distraction and are not relevant to Keyes' views on the conservative movement.

I am glad that Scott Brown won, primarily because it means Obama lost, but I get nervous when I read fellow FReepers feting him. It's almost like, for at least today, Scott Brown is the FR version of Barack Obama. Each poster can paint whatever image they have of him on him, yet all we have to go on is his record; a record that leaves much to be desired in terms of advancing traditional conservatism.