Posted on 01/18/2010 8:50:34 PM PST by RobinMasters
Lawmakers in Arizona have proposed a law that would require state officials to begin independently verifying the accuracy of newly required documents affirming the constitutional eligibility of any candidate for the U.S. presidency.
"Certainly, there has been controversy over President Obama and his birth certificate, where he was born, etc.," state Sen. Sylvia Allen, R-Snowflake, told the Arizona Capitol Times. "It just makes sense and will stop any controversy in the future to just show you are a natural born citizen."
She is one of about three dozen lawmakers to sign on as co-sponsors.
The plan would accomplish essentially the same thing as that proposed by Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla., on the federal level.
The provisions of Posey's H.R. 1503 are straightforward: "To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee's statement of organization a copy of the candidate's birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution."
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
OH OH somebody never hear of Crazy Nut job and Mullahs LOL!
You emerge again! Becoming a president of the US is not on a par with getting a passport. Stop trolling.
No, I am not implying anything. As I said, I am sure he qualifies to hold the office. What I thought was interesting was the attorneys’ position on the issue of qualification versus state certification.
Hope so and thank you.
Right. I rather doubt, though, that if the time came when they did actually go to trial...that they’d offer that thing up as any kind of proof. Assuming they were competent that is.
State Certification (of the vote "integrity" and tally) is an entirely different thing than Constitutional eligibility requirements.
Yeah, the good doc from HI has the authority to declare Barry a NBC. Good stuff there.
That's not necessarily true. In the State Department's Foreign Affairs manual, it states that an American citizen born abroad to two U.S. citizens is not necessarily eligible under the U.S. Constitution to be POTUS. They indicate that the courts have not ruled either way on that specific situation. So while they are U.S. citizens (non-naturalized) with all the rights and protections guaranteed by the Constitution, they are cautioned that they may not be eligible to serve as POTUS. (I will glady provide a link if you would like to read it yourself.)
In my mind, that would bring into question Obama's status since he has a foreign citizen parent. If the courts agreed that there is no clear definition in Obama's case, they could require the long form BC since it contains more detailed information about his father.
I believe we need a SCOTUS ruling on those born to one U.S. citizen parent and on those born abroad to two U.S. citizen parents. JMHO
“If one of these ever actually got to trial, my prediction is that Obama would enter the COLB and win a directed verdict. The end.”
Which COLB? The green online jpeg we’ve seen, or a hard copy from the issuing agency?
What McCain eligiblity case?
At this point, everything in the world of birthers is true.
Yeah, the good doc from HI has the authority to declare Barry a NBC. Good stuff there.
What would you need to get a passport?
Which COLB? The green online jpeg we’ve seen, or a hard copy from the issuing agency?
You don't get out much, do you? :)
Here's a NYT article about the issue of John McCain's eligibility.
Here's a link to the Hollander v. McCain lawsuit documents.
At this point, everything in the world of birthers is true.
Far from it. Most of it is speculation, hogwash, or delusion.
What McCain eligiblity case?
You don’t get out much, do you? :)
Here’s a NYT article about the issue of John McCain’s eligibility.
Here’s a link to the Hollander v. McCain lawsuit documents.
At this point, everything in the world of birthers is true.
Far from it. Most of it is speculation, hogwash, or delusion.
Let me first qualify my position by stating that I am not a birther. (I used to be until I reviewed all of the facts in the public domain.) I do believe there is reason to question Obama’s status due to his father’s citizenship.
However, Hawaii has not confirmed that the COLB posted online by the Obama campaign (or FightTheSmears or FactCheck) is legitimate or even issued by the State of Hawaii. In fact, they have declined to do so.
They have made official statements regarding their review of the vital records currently on file with the Hawaii Department of Health. However, (to my knowledge) those statements have not been submitted as evidence in any eligibility lawsuit thus far. Those statements should be taken at face value, nothing more, because the Attorney General of Hawaii and the Director of Health do not have the authority to declare that Obama is a natural born citizen. They can legally state only that their records reflect that Obama was born in Hawaii. If their statements were submitted as evidence in a lawsuit, I’m sure the court would grant them sufficient weight under the law.
Same as you, assuming your not a politician being groomed by the power/money class.
Then again, if there were something in the passport that you didn't want the sheeple to know...
Candidates' passport files breached - Decision '08- msnbc.com
A unsubstantiated press release by a medical doc, is far from proof or holding legal weight regarding Barry’s eligibility status.
They state:
"Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents."
Yet, the guidance provided by WKA was that a person born in the country to alien parents, was a "citizen"...they never found WKA to the a "Natural Born" citizen. Only, a citizen with the same rights and privileges as an NBC. So, how in the world can the come to their "conclusion" by way of WKA? Completely contradictory.
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