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To: La Lydia

Sounds like the homeowner’s weapon was loaded with birdshot. Double-ought buck or rifled slugs people! No sense having the best home defense weapon available with ammo that won’t get the job done.


6 posted on 01/05/2010 4:36:47 AM PST by CholeraJoe (My baloney has a first name, it's B-A-R-A-K. My baloney has a second name, it's O-B-A-M-A)
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To: CholeraJoe

doesn’t specify how much shot hit the perp, and how much hit the house either ;-)


9 posted on 01/05/2010 4:39:34 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: CholeraJoe

I like your tagline ... ((My baloney has a first name, it’s B-A-R-A-K. My baloney has a second name, it’s O-B-A-M-A).

Now make a slight change and sing it to the same tune ..

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13 posted on 01/05/2010 4:43:36 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: CholeraJoe

I too am a believer in 00 buckshot, but in fact #4 shot (and larger) works extremely well as well. I’ve got a couple hundred rounds of 12 GA Winchester, Hi Velocity #2 steel shot turkey rounds that would be every bit as effective for home defense as the buckshot, if not more so because there are more pellets.

Birdshot and other game loads are for plinking and shooting clay pigeons...


24 posted on 01/05/2010 5:35:59 AM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts....)
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To: CholeraJoe
Birdshot for home defense is completely reasonable. Size 9 on up is nothing more than a 2-3 inch diameter cloud at short in-home ranges, yet loses energy rapidly when impacting home furnishings, walls etc. Buck and slugs are great for medium ranges or when more penetration is desired. I am quite certain a hit to the hip/flank with bird shot has ruined this guys chances of running the 100m, buck or slug would likely not have done more. Note that the blast of an off-centered shotgun did not stop the perp-he could have continued the attack just as much as he ran away....

Shoot to hit CM, shoot until he stops.

Hitting the perp, and hitting him in a stopping location is the key with any arm.

29 posted on 01/05/2010 5:56:56 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret) "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: CholeraJoe

You are correct about he bird shot. Not enough penetration and what you need is a disconnect in the CNS, not a nasty surface wound.

On the other hand, rifled slugs in a home may not be such a good idea either, might as well use a 45 or 40 cal hand gun as they are easier to point aim in a home.

Always abide by the notion that any round that misses and goes down range has a lawyer attached to it!

I keep a 20 gauge double with 3 buck handy as my wife may have to use it. Inside 20 feet, it is as effective as a 12 gauge without the recoil.

Vince


32 posted on 01/05/2010 6:10:00 AM PST by Mouton
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To: CholeraJoe
Sounds like the homeowner’s weapon was loaded with birdshot. Double-ought buck or rifled slugs people! No sense having the best home defense weapon available with ammo that won’t get the job done.

Sounds more like the homeowner is aware of what exists outside the walls of his home. Your theory is more for the criminal, not someone in a self-defense role. And birdshot can be quite messy inside 15-20 feet.

33 posted on 01/05/2010 6:10:43 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Step 1 - Identify Obama/Dem/RINO supporters. Step 2 - Punish them economically.)
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To: CholeraJoe
Double-ought buck or rifled slugs people!

Ones choice of ammunition should be determined by the type of construction, proximity to neighbors, etc.

I keep my shotgun loaded with #6 shot. At indoor ranges it's devastating and has a much lower chance of passing through sheetrock and killing my child or my neighbor.

34 posted on 01/05/2010 6:14:21 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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