Posted on 01/03/2010 12:50:12 PM PST by Skepolitic
Spy chiefs turn on President Obama after seven CIA agents are slaughtered in Afghanistan By David Gardner
excerpt: Barack Obama was accused of double standards yesterday in his treatment of the CIA.
The President paid tribute to secret agents after seven of them were killed by a suicide bomber in Afghanistan. In a statement, he said the CIA had been ‘tested as never before’ and that agents had ‘served on the front lines in directly confronting the dangers of the 21st century’.
He lauded the victims as ‘part of a long line of patriots who have made great sacrifices for their fellow citizens and for our way of life’.
Yet the previous day he had blasted ‘systemic failures’ in the CIA and other US intelligence agencies for failing to prevent the Christmas Day syringe bomb attack.
‘One day the President is pointing the finger and blaming the intelligence services, saying there is a systemic failure,’ said one agency official. ‘Now we are heroes. The fact is that we are doing everything humanly possible to stay on top of the security situation. The deaths of our operatives shows just how involved we are on the ground.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1239941/Spy-chiefs-turn-President-Obama-seven-CIA-agents-slaughtered-Afghanistan.html#ixzz0baIEqJdD
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Seriously, and I’ve known you for a long time, dude: Seriously, check yourself. You are acting differently. It might be the sign of a medical issue. I am not taking a shot at you. I am mentioning this out of concern.
Well, I'll take you at your word that you've known me (which I take to mean you've read my posts all along)... so if that's the case, then you also know that I've always taken a very strident position against Islam, since the beginning of my posting here on Free Republic.
It's nothing new...
And it's also nothing new that I take post in a way that gets people to thinking about the basic issue at hand -- which I know to be Islam and only Islam. It doesn't matter whether we're talking about a Democrat or Republican Administration -- in terms of the seriousness of the enemy -- it's Islam and only Islam that is the major problem here.
So..., either you really do know me... or you don't....
I've always been an insistent poster, I've always been one to answer everyone who posts to me (unless I miss it of course, or else, it's not that important to do so...).
Yes..., you either do know me... or perhaps you don't...
I suggest it may be medical in nature.
Yes, you have. This posting of yours caught me by surprise because of that.
It is very similar to saying: "I wish Hitler would kill MILLIONS of Jews, so that people could see how evil Nazism is!"
That would be pretty f****d up, right there.
It’s despicable and aligns you with the “hopes” of the worst of the terrorists.
That's what you say... but you'll never find any posts that aligns me with Islam or their terrorist intentions.
The problem that I see with many (and why I say that some need reading comprehension, and perhaps some thinking skills added to it...) -- is that there is a difference between stating the reality of something -- namely that a major terrorist attack is going to occur. The Bush Administration made that perfectly clear and said it was not a matter of "if" but a matter of "when".
So the certainty of the situation is a given (as far as I'm concerned, and I do agree with what the Bush Administration said on that matter).
Thus, when stating the reality of a situation -- that the terrorist attack is going to occur (and it is..., a massive one...) -- it's not a statement of wishful thinking (that one wants it to) or is it a matter of siding with terrorists, that you say that they are going to do is and do it successfully and accomplish what they are setting out to do.
That's one major problem in "thinking" that I can see here....
Yes, you have. This posting of yours caught me by surprise because of that.
Just put in a very brief and simple way... that should be a indication to you that you're misunderstanding what I'm saying then... keeping in mind my context, my posting history and that I haven't deviated from the same thinking about Islam that I've had all along (and I never will either...).
It is very similar to saying: "I wish Hitler would kill MILLIONS of Jews, so that people could see how evil Nazism is!"
Now for the sake of illustration, I'll give you something here, in regards to what you just said (on this other subject matter) to illustrate what I'm saying is the difference between a "what is" -- and "what I wish for".... a problem that several people have trouble distinguishing here.
In regards to Hitler and his killing of six million Jews (a round figure...), that is history and thus, it is something we talk about "in the past"...
But, if one were to say that God allowed it and say that it also contributed to the formation of the nation of Israel, and that without it, it is doubtful that Israel would have been formed -- some might take that as "wishful thinking" in that I'm glad that Hitler killed six million Jews in order that we could see the formation of the state of Israel.
What I'm saying is that there is a situation in which one can say "these are the facts and that's the way it is" -- which can be entirely different from one's own "wishful thinking" in terms of what they actually want.
It's a fact that God allowed it (goes without saying, doesn't it...). And I would say that it's pretty well established thinking that it's because of this massive killing of the Jews that it formed the basis for the formation of the nation of Israel, once again (on many differnt levels of thought and human endeavor).
But, that's not wishing that Hitler would do it or glad that he did do it.
NOW..., going further with this idea of the six million Jews killed by Hitler, there is supposed to be another 12 million Jews killed in the coming Tribulation (about 2/3 of the world's existing Jews killed, coming up) -- by the coming Antichrist.
And, with this little tidbit of information, I've also seen some Evangelical Christian teachers and pastors accused of wishing it to happen. On the contrary, they are only speaking to "what is" -- from what the Bible says, although it hasn't happened yet. It's another one of those things that God is going to allow, once again.
There may be some who deny this to be the case, but that doesn't take away from the fact that there are many Evangelical Christians who see it as happening, according to what the Bible says.
Now, maybe someone will accuse them of wanting double the number of Jews killed in the world, more so than Hitler was able to accomplish. In fact, I've heard some "Jews" use this example (of some Evangelical Christian's understanding of this situation in the Bible) as proof (for them, obviously) of the fact that these Christians are anti-Jewish and really want to "kill off the Jews" and are only using the Bible as a disguise of what they wish.... LOL...
The same thing is going on -- in this thread -- of the difference between "what is" and "what one wants"...
And in light of what you wrote, you seem to think that maximum evil must be perpetrated before recovery from that evil can begin.
If I thought that, I would have continued with drugs until I died.
I decided to recognize that my bottom was low enough. Same with evil from terrorism; Nazism; et al. You don't need a maximum bottom before you recover. To wish for a maximum bottom -- especially for others -- makes it so people think you suck.
And that would be pretty f****d up, right there.
I suggest it may be medical in nature.
I suggest that it's a matter of comprehension and understanding the difference from the "what is" -- as compared to "what I want"...
May posters don't distinguish between the two, I notice.
And further, it's also a matter of context, prior posts, and what I've also said here. It's all perfectly clear to me... and if it's not to you and others, then that illustrates a big problem here on Free Republic, at least with some posters, anyway...
It just comes down to the fact that we already know that it's going to happen. That's a given. We know that because the best information from our own people has said that in no uncertain terms. They've already let us know that it's not a matter of "if" -- but only a matter of "when"...
If someone doesn't know this -- then they are totally lacking in knowledge and context on the matter.
Now, since we know it's going to happen and we know that we're going to have a massive terrorist attack that is going to succeed... then next question that I ask is whether it's better to have it happen with a Republican Administration or a Democrat Administration.
I'm very clear on my thinking on the matter that it's much better to have it happen with a Democrat Administration and sooner rather than later.
BUT...., it seems that many still cannot distinguish between the "what is" (of the facts that we do have and know) -- and the "what I want to happen"...
And I can't do anything to help people with that kind of thinking problem...
Put the ego away. Ego stands for Easing God Out.
No matter how infallible you might feel, entertain for just a fleeting second -- you MIGHT be in the wrong here. It may not be that all of Free Republic has a problem, after all.
“You were saying ...”
No. I wasn’t “saying.” I SAID what someone else was saying.
Talk about botched reading skills.
And what I SAID was that the pve I got stemmed from something you did as far back as 2007...before I was here.
The gist of it was that you refused to even contemplate that Cho was part of an islamist attack.
A bit of hypocricy? No?
Yet here you are, stinking up the place and repeating yourself over and over and over, ad nauseum, that your whole premise for these posts is a statement by the Bush administration which you are preaching as though it was Gospel and saying that islam is OUR punishment so we should just rend our garments, put ashes on our foreheads, and begin the mourning process for a green glass America after a major nuke attack which would leave untold millions dead and many more dying so you will feel justified and all self righteous having said you told us so and the icing on your cake is that it would be under a DEMOCRAT administration????
That is just sick.
LOL your damn self!
The Lame Stream Media will NEVER cover this Affirmative Action Prez's screwups for the world to see.....
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I don't buy a lot of your religion.
And in light of what you wrote, you seem to think that maximum evil must be perpetrated before recovery from that evil can begin.
Oh..., I already realize that this is a big part of the problem to begin with. You see, no terrorist attack can or will take place unless the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob allows it. That's a "worldview" that many posters here on Free Republic "don't buy"... I've noticed.
But, you'll find plenty of Evangelical Christians who do "buy that" (so to speak) and they are completely on board with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob have complete and total control over all things and nothing happens with His direct will or permissive will being involved.
You don't have to believe it -- but suffice it to say that plenty of Evangelical Christians do believe it...
And furthermore -- the bottom line is that it doesn't matter what you or I think about it anyway -- in regards to whether the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has total and complete control over all things that happens in the universe and that nothing happens with His total control over it -- because -- no matter what you or I think on the matter -- the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One who is bringing all these things about, in history anyway, whether anyone believes in Him or not.
In other words, no one has to believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, for Him to exercise His control... :-)
NOW..., in regards to your statement of the "maximum evil" -- you'll find that in the Bible, it is said that God does wait until evil reaches its maximum point and then He acts. In fact, it is told to us that the one-world government will be allowed by God to take hold of the world and control it and the maximum evil will be allowed to happen -- and then -- God will judge it and His Kingdom will be installed in the place of the one-world government that is coming right now.
He will come back to destroy it and put His own one-world government in place -- and He will definitely be on a campaign to totally obliterate and destroy Islam in the process of doing this...
At Christmas -- a lot of people think about a cute little baby Jesus or a very nice man who said nice things to people, was uplifting, and healed a bunch of people...
What people really need to remember is that there's this "big bad Jewish fellow" out there, who's showing up soon, sorta unexpected, and he's "looking for bear" and is gonna open up "the biggest can of whoop-ass" you've ever seen in your life, on a bunch of people here on earth. LOL...
However, many fail to understand -- but they will "understand" when the Messiah of Israel returns to this earth, sets His feet on the soil of this globe, and sets up the ruling authority -- the one-world government -- that He puts into place over all nations, including the United States.
He's the Messiah of Israel, that He is coming back to earth, to set up a one-world government, with His headquarters in Jerusalem, ruling over all the nations of the world, including the United States and will rule over all who are still alive (from who are living right now today) -- and that He will definitely scrap the Constitution of the United States and make Himself the supreme ruler over all that we do.
The "day of reckoning" is coming for all of those who are trying to take over the world and put it totally under their control in an evil one-world empire. And they do admit that they want a one-world government -- their government, not God's...
When the Messiah of Israel comes back to this earth to set up His one-world government and subject all the nations of the world to His authority and rule -- He'll be making real short work of any of those yahoos...
And you can be sure that He will be utterly destroying anything to do with any of these yahoos, since whatever they say and do is a total perversion of anything to do with the Messiah of Israel.
And for sure -- we all, in this world, need the Messiah of Israel back, here on earth -- to destroy this coming one-world government and to install His own one-world government in its place.
I'm looking forward to the coming Kingdom on earth and the one-world government that the Messiah of Israel will be setting up, after He destroys, by His own hand, the present and evil one-world government that we see forming right now.
Isaiah 9:6-7
For unto us a Child is born.
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the increase of His government and peace
There will be no end,
Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,
To order it and establish it with judgment and justice
From that time forward, even forever.
The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.
The gist of it was that you refused to even contemplate that Cho was part of an islamist attack.
Cho was not part of an Islamic attack. I don't have to make up or construct a bogey-man out of an individual who couldn't even keep his different "idealogies" straight in his statement.
While Islam is an evil and despicable idealogy (which I've said all along, from the beginning of my posting here of ten years) -- evil does not require "Islam" to be evil. Evil is something that exists on its own without Islam. Islam is a subset of "evil"...
Evil comes from Satan, for one thing, and as the Bible makes clear, too -- evil comes from sin in mankind, for another thing. Both of those working together, produces all sorts of despicable things in our world.
Obama as a presidential figurehead is like inviting the violin section to a gang war. What a pure, undiluted, unequaled idiot. Proof positive that voters should have to verify the existence of an I.Q.
Put the ego away. Ego stands for Easing God Out.
Well, when I see that I'm wrong, I'll be telling you... but when I don't see that I'm wrong, I won't be telling you that... LOL...
It's really pretty simple..
And, it's the same with God, if one prays to Him... if you suspect that you're wrong on something, all you need to do is pray to God that He shows you where that is and that you become aware of it. And it works very well that way.
I always laugh at people who say that "you could be wrong" -- when if they thought they were wrong, they wouldn't be saying what they were saying in the first place.... LOL... (it's a "given"...).
No matter how infallible you might feel, entertain for just a fleeting second -- you MIGHT be in the wrong here. It may not be that all of Free Republic has a problem, after all.
Now that's funny... we see about maybe ten or so posters, maybe 20 -- and that's supposed to consist of the many thousands upon thousands of posters we have here... LOL...
Naahhh..., I've seen that kind of argument before. All you get (in this kind of situation) is not a representatiion of how FRee Republic really feels about a subject -- you just get a few posters who want to post on a particular subject... that's all...
Every single "mainstream" party of every single Western country has a pro-Islamic immigration track record of promoting high levels of despite any speechifying to the contrary. Some Western countries have pretended to be fight a simultaneous "war" on terror for the last decade even as they have stepped up the immigration.
I have lost patience with gung ho talk about war that ignores the issue of immigration. The huge voter majorities against such immigration appear distracted by the war. I have read comments that state a politician is good on the war but bad on immigration!?!? Any politician that is bad on immigration is nothing but a joke on the war. What do you think? Is the war on terror being used as a smokescreen to Islamify the West?
Fine but the bomber was also on the terrorist watch list and apparently traveling with a bad passport. Something stinks.
Leon Panetta???
M.B. If you live in the U.S., would it be realistic to think that this could be coming to your neighborhood???
http://knowledgecreatespower.blogspot.com/2009/12/of-executive-orders-and-trojan-horses.html
Scroll down to the end to link: U.S. Forces Plan Direct Action...” At “The Europe Union Times” click on “Listen NOW”!!!
I have lost patience with gung ho talk about war that ignores the issue of immigration. The huge voter majorities against such immigration appear distracted by the war. I have read comments that state a politician is good on the war but bad on immigration!?!? Any politician that is bad on immigration is nothing but a joke on the war. What do you think? Is the war on terror being used as a smokescreen to Islamify the West?
Sorry, I was out for a bit... had to go out and get cigarettes for someone here, and I don't even smoke... blah!
Yeah, for those who want to "Islamify" the West... yes, it's a smokescreen. I say that (for those who intend that) because the Muslim clerics and other spokesmen in the Islamic countries make that very clear. They intend to use immigration (both legal and illegal) to infiltrate the West.
Unfortunately, I don't think you're going to cut out Muslim infiltration of the West, because we're allowing a whole lot of them in legally. I think there should be a cap on that, though and it should be radically limited.
I also think that Islam should be outlawed in this country because it's a form or government, and not a religion. It only disguises itself as a religion, but it's mainly a way of governning people in Muslim nations. And that's why they are trying so hard to "Islamify" the laws of this country, in order to sneak Sharia law into our country, a little bit at a time.
Islam and Sharia law is a subterfuge (of a supposed "religion") to violently overthrow the government of this country and as such, it should be outlawed.
Here's what I did in another post in regards to Muslim Demographics. We'll be a Muslim nation in short order, unless we outlaw Islam...
That evil and oppressive governmental idealogy of Islam and the way of implementing it by Sharia law is already making inroads right here in this country — the good ole USA. We’re about to see a “takeover” of the U.S. by the evil and oppressive idealogy of the government of Islam (that is aiming for world-wide conquest and has stated that the U.S. is *on its list* to take over...)
And for those people who need some additional facts about what the evil and oppressive governmental idealogy of Islam is doing, look at some of the following.
There’s no question about it... the enemy is *Islam* itself and the evil and oppressive and false idealogy that it perpetrates. Some say the problem is “fascism” (instead of the basic oppressive governmental idealogy of Islam, itself). But, that is to engage in “political correctness” and nothing more... and sidetracks people from the *true enemy* in this war.
In one generation we’ll see, right here in the United States that “Islam” is the enemy and not “fascism”...
Muslim Demographics...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU
and also, this...
Islam: What the West Needs to Know - FULL LENGTH ENGLISH VERSION
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781
and then, looking at this...
“The Third Jihad” (video - abridged version of film)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2271522/posts
This is the allowance of “false gods” to take over this nation because of the ignorance of the people of the land in regards to the true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob...
And so, we see that we’re going to have the “false god of Islam” ruling over the USA and running the USA in just one generation from now.
You absolutely have to see the "Muslim Demographics"... it's too amazing...
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