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To: Brugmansian
Interesting from what we can read.

Here is my take. To lump the 78% that voted for Obozo into a an overview would be a misnomer IMHO. My guess is the 78% are all "Reform" Jews, and as Bill Kristol says, the Reform movement if you will is the DNC with high holidays. Yes it is cultural. I had a discussion with my retired Jewish Professor Conservative just yesterday, and this topic came up. We were discussing the distain for Palin, and we agreed it is cultural. She (Palin) is the Annie Oakley Western Frontier Girl, The Reform Jews are Urban/Suburban professionals from the NE/Chicago corridors and probably have never hunted, gone for a ride in a Seaplane, driven a Snowmobile, shot or dined on Moose.

Quite frankly they can't relate, let alone the Israeli Politics, Pro-life vs. Pro-Choice etc. issues. They do not share the go west young man mentality of making it in America. Theirs maybe study hard, go to school "X" follow careers in this column, etc. and work within the system.

At somepoint maybe they will learn she is like-able, but these cultural issues maybe too much of a bridge to cross.....

51 posted on 01/01/2010 11:34:29 AM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: taildragger
Yes it is cultural. I had a discussion with my retired Jewish Professor Conservative just yesterday, and this topic came up. We were discussing the distain for Palin, and we agreed it is cultural. She (Palin) is the Annie Oakley Western Frontier Girl, The Reform Jews are Urban/Suburban professionals from the NE/Chicago corridors and probably have never hunted, gone for a ride in a Seaplane, driven a Snowmobile, shot or dined on Moose.

I agree. This isn't a Jewish thing. All the elites you menion share this view. It is much, much wider than "Why Jews hate Palin". It is why the liberal elites hate Palin. Their hate is understandable in way. Consider what conservatives, myself included, often say of the Ivy League crowd:

The degrees they sweat blood to get a mean little. Better to have a tire store manager from Nebraska at Treasury than a Harvard Business school graduate. Most of psychology and all of sociology is junk science. Lawyers produce little of value and are often venal. The art the elites produce is crap. The Pulitizers, Oscars, Nobel and other prizes the elites give each other are risible. At best the liberal elites are worthless, at worst they are corrupt and evil.

I'm in CT. I see the parties, I see the gushing over achievements I don't consider achievements but merely punching a ticket to a high paying job society would be better off if it didn't exist. I know the sneers from the heartland hurt them. Not much defense to the charges either. All they can do is call the heartland stupid (cause we do not see how valuable the elites are).

119 posted on 01/01/2010 1:03:44 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: taildragger
Here is my take. To lump the 78% that voted for Obozo into a an overview would be a misnomer IMHO. My guess is the 78% are all "Reform" Jews, and as Bill Kristol says, the Reform movement if you will is the DNC with high holidays. Yes it is cultural. I had a discussion with my retired Jewish Professor Conservative just yesterday, and this topic came up. We were discussing the distain for Palin, and we agreed it is cultural. She (Palin) is the Annie Oakley Western Frontier Girl, The Reform Jews are Urban/Suburban professionals from the NE/Chicago corridors and probably have never hunted, gone for a ride in a Seaplane, driven a Snowmobile, shot or dined on Moose.

Quite frankly they can't relate, let alone the Israeli Politics, Pro-life vs. Pro-Choice etc. issues. They do not share the go west young man mentality of making it in America. Theirs maybe study hard, go to school "X" follow careers in this column, etc. and work within the system.

I would say that's pretty accurate and pretty much the problem Sarah Palin has with Jews...I'm Jewish. I have hunted, dined on deer and reindeer but not been on a seaplane or snowmobile. But have nothing against those that do. But most urban Jews ridicule such outdoor activities. Idiotic in my book but these "urban sophisticates" (not just Jews) derive a lot of their self esteem from dumping on the country bumpkins with their guns etc... Which is pretty vile considering that a lot of our military are such guys and gals

166 posted on 01/01/2010 3:45:50 PM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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