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One person that we should take into account: The Indian accomplice, a well-dressed guy who managed to get Abdul Mutallab aboard Flight 253 with no passport.
1 posted on 12/29/2009 11:57:01 PM PST by myknowledge
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there’s reports the other man taken into custody was someone who was videotaping the flight, including the tackling of the terrorist forever to be known as the peckerless wonder


2 posted on 12/30/2009 12:11:41 AM PST by blueplum
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Do you need a passport if you are only escorting someone on the flight and you yourself will not leave the airport and return home?


3 posted on 12/30/2009 12:14:40 AM PST by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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Where are the airport video? I want to see them! We can see airport videos of people tazered and beaten to a pulp by the security guards. However when it involves a real world terrorist. Nada! Nope. Not going to see it.

Bring on the crickets.


4 posted on 12/30/2009 12:24:37 AM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Marxism.)
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He was charged on Saturday with trying to destroy an airplane, punishable by up to 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

That's it? How about 300 counts of attempted murder?

6 posted on 12/30/2009 12:45:15 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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But Dutch authorities have dismissed claims that Abdulmutallab boarded the flight without a passport. A spokesman for its counter-terrorism office said: “He had a passport and a valid visa for the United States and KLM had clearance on the passenger list to carry him to the US.”

So if he did have the documents they say he did, what was all the song-and-dance concerning trying to get him on board without them all about? Could KLM mean that they had a record of a passport that was shown in the past rather than seeing the actual thing now?

7 posted on 12/30/2009 12:46:19 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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I'd like to see someone "in the know" answer the questions:

Did the flier have a passport when he purchased his round trip tickets from Lagos to Amsterdam to Detroit for cash?

Did the flier have a passport to board the plane in Lagos on Christmas Eve, bound for Amsterdam?

By the way, most of the "Lagos to Detroit" tickets rout via Atlanta and not Amsterdam. The thing I heard was Holland does not permit US Armed Air Marshals to board US bound planes from Amsterdam, making a Marshal free rout into the US. Not cool, if true.

10 posted on 12/30/2009 2:14:57 AM PST by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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I have two questions:
1.How would anyone not flying himself get to the boarding gate to intercede for this guy? He would have had to show ID to get there and certainly if he talked to someone in authority.

2. Where did the bomber’s passport get to if he had one to board?

This story just doesn’t sound right. Of course it could be easily answered if the FBI showed his passport just like his underwear.


13 posted on 12/30/2009 3:58:08 AM PST by JeanLM
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Meanwhile, a Michigan man who was aboard Northwest Airlines Flight 253 says he witnessed Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab trying to board the plane in Amsterdam without a passport.

Too bad for Obama & other authorities that we have American eyewitnesses who saw what really happened.

15 posted on 12/30/2009 4:45:47 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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What language was the well dressed man speaking? I've been assuming it was English, but what if it were a different language? Could Mr Haskell have misunderstood about the passport?

So they say that pantybomber had a passport. Was it his original one or a replacement issued on that day? Chances are he probably claimed that he lost his passport and a new one was issued.

16 posted on 12/30/2009 4:57:59 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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The FBI could be splitting hairs here. Perhaps Mutallab did have a passport but didn’t want to present it, suspecting he’d be on the no-fly list.

There are legitimate reasons for competent investigators, if there are any, to want to keep the accomplice story quiet. It seems increasingly likely that there were facilitators in Amsterdam—with the airline, with security, or both—so identifying/finding this guy and connecting dots on the ground in Amsterdam would be key.


17 posted on 12/30/2009 5:22:43 AM PST by Eroteme
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” allegedly “?
What’s this “ allegedly “ crap.
Just so much political correctness.
This puke was caught red handed trying to blow up a jet and so as to not hurt anyones feelings he is “ allegedly “?
Hang him from a lamp post and let the people stone him.


18 posted on 12/30/2009 5:28:09 AM PST by Joe Boucher (This marxist punk has got to go.)
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Amending my post at #17: It’s the Dutch authorities saying he had a passport. So if there is hair-splitting going on, they’re doing so in concert with the FBI for investigational purposes, or they’re trying to cover their butts. (Probably both.)

Mutallab may indeed have had a passport—but when? Before or after the backroom confab between the mystery Indian man and the manager?


19 posted on 12/30/2009 5:32:55 AM PST by Eroteme
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I have a question that is a bit off-topic but I haven't seen it explained anywhere.

If this was a Northwest Airlines flight, why does all the video I've seen show a Delta plane?

22 posted on 12/30/2009 7:14:01 AM PST by carolinablonde ("The Constitution protects all of us, not just those on the left." - Gov. Sarah Palin)
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It is impossible to board without a passport in Holland. In fact everyone in The Netherlands need always to be able to show their ID, it is the law. So wherever you are, in the train, your car, a shop, your house, on the street, you have to bring your ID with you.


25 posted on 12/30/2009 11:24:40 AM PST by Thil
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