Oh, please. The liberal game of knee-jerk offendedness won't work here.
I was very clear in comparing the situation of conservative homosexuals and conservative blacks in one specific aspect: both are faced with most organizations and individuals claiming to speak for their identity group being liberal or leftist, creating an expectation that members of the group conform to this or shut up.
I put it to you that this specific comparison is obviously apt and accurate. If anything there is even more of an attempt by the left to "templatize," blacks, if only because their numbers (and potential votes) are greater.
People are born black (or white, etc) and it is a neutral characteristic that has nothing to do with character or behavior, and cannot be changed.
You and I, as conservatives, believe that race and ethnicity are properly neutral wrt to political ideology. Liberals and leftists (and other bigoted extremists) obviously believe no such thing. They believe, and loudly and persistently insist, that blacks should be liberal and left, and vote Democrat, because they are black.
And guess what. Lots of blacks buy that. Indeed most blacks appear to conform to this expectation. As a group, blacks consistently vote overwhelmingly for liberal Democrats, by over 90 percent. (Even though objective polling indicates their views on most issues are more often in line with those of conservative Republicans.)
So you and I, as conservatives, are pleased and encouraging when conservative blacks speak out and openly challenge the template. You and I, as conservatives, consider it important -- given the constant campaign by race hustlers, the MSM and the intelligentsia to "templatize" them -- that at least some conservative blacks do so.
Yet suddenly, when conservative homosexuals do exactly the same, you inconsistently insist that the leftist template is correct. You join help the left in shunning and marginalizing them for their deviancy from political correctness. You can't even bring yourself to say, "hey, I don't agree on the sex thing, but I'm happy to have you on our side politically."
lj: Comparing blacks to homosexuals [...] is very offensive to black people.
Oh, please. The liberal game of knee-jerk offendedness won’t work here.
lj: No liberal crap on my part, only on yours. My friend and many other blacks do not like their inherent race which is benign, to be compared to sexual deviancy.
lj: If a homosexual holds conservative viewpoints, he will eschew the homosexual agenda. Black conservatives will also eschew liberalism that is spouted by blacks or people of any other color.
I put it to you that this specific comparison is obviously apt and accurate. If anything there is even more of an attempt by the left to “templatize,” blacks, if only because their numbers (and potential votes) are greater.
lj: Exactly so, leftists love to put people in boxes and give them false or separate identities - divide and conquer!
lj: People are born black (or white, etc) and it is a neutral characteristic that has nothing to do with character or behavior, and cannot be changed.
You and I, as conservatives, believe that race and ethnicity are properly neutral wrt to political ideology. Liberals and leftists (and other bigoted extremists) obviously believe no such thing. They believe, and loudly and persistently insist, that blacks should be liberal and left, and vote Democrat, because they are black.
lj: I am a conservative. I don’t know about you, since you are spouting quite a bit of sexual identity political pro-”gay” agenda nonsense.
And guess what. Lots of blacks buy that. Indeed most blacks appear to conform to this expectation. As a group, blacks consistently vote overwhelmingly for liberal Democrats, by over 90 percent. (Even though objective polling indicates their views on most issues are more often in line with those of conservative Republicans.)
lj: I agree.
So you and I, as conservatives
lj: I am conservative, you are a mixed bag apparently.
, are pleased and encouraging when conservative blacks speak out and openly challenge the template. You and I, as conservatives, consider it important — given the constant campaign by race hustlers, the MSM and the intelligentsia to “templatize” them — that at least some conservative blacks do so.
Yet suddenly, when conservative homosexuals do exactly the same, you inconsistently insist that the leftist template is correct.
lj: Your efforts to paint opposition to the “gay” agenda and homosexual identity as equivalent to race as leftist are not only a stretch so big you’d have to be a Chinese contortionist to succeed, but are also transparently false.
lj: WTH?? I am “shunning and marginalizing” them? Sounds like leftist psycho-manipulation-speak to me! Homosexuals are busy marginalizing themselves right into the sewer!
lj: I say exactly that. If any homosexual is conservative and leaves his pervesion in the bedroom where it belongs, I have no problem with such people voting conservative and espousing conservative ideals and convictions. But as soon as they publicly affirm and promote perversion, they have left conservatism, are promoting the “gay” agenda which is all about domination and fascist control. And by supporting the “gay” agenda, so have you.