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Mother Mary encounters Obamacare
David Horowitz's NewsRealblog ^ | 20 December, 2009 | Paul Cooper

Posted on 12/20/2009 6:18:02 AM PST by Michael van der Galien

A few years ago many Christians loved to ask the question, “What would Jesus do?” Chuck Norris has taken some criticism for asking a new question. If Obamacare existed in Judea 2000 years ago, what would the virgin Mary have done with her pregnancy?

Is that a fair question to ask, or is that improperly using religion or worse? MsNBC’s Ed Schultz called it psycho talk and “sacrilegious” on his show this week.

Chuck Norris: What would have happened if Mother Mary had been covered by Obamacare? What if that young, poor and uninsured teenage woman had been provided the federal funds (via Obamacare) and facilities (via Planned Parenthood, etc.) to avoid the ridicule, ostracizing, persecution and possible stoning because of her out-of-wedlock pregnancy? Imagine all the great souls who could have been erased from history and the influence of mankind if their parents had been as progressive as Washington’s wise men and women! Will Obamacare morph into Herodcare for the unborn?

Schultz summarizes this quote with a bold statement that goes further than I believe Norris intended.

“Chuck wrote an oped suggesting that if the current healthcare bill had been around 2000 years ago, Jesus would never have been born…Wow! Wow! Wrong about healthcare and sacrilegious both at the same time. That’s talent Chuck -good job.”

Norris does not suggest Jesus would never have been born under Obamacare. He only asks what would have happened if Mary had the options that Obamacare will provide. And Schultz leaves out the key part where Norris adds “if (Mary or other parents) has been as progressive as Washington’s wise men and women!”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: christians; mothermary; obamacare; sunday

1 posted on 12/20/2009 6:18:03 AM PST by Michael van der Galien
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To: Michael van der Galien

Obamacare is evil evil evil, but the question is a non-starter. Jesus would have been born anyway, Herodcare or no Herodcare. And He would have survived the subsequent infanticide. God’s plan doesn’t exactly depend upon perfect political conditions.


2 posted on 12/20/2009 6:25:06 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Michael van der Galien

If 0bamacare had existed before I was born, I might not be here. I was premature and it was expensive to keep me alive, the death panel might just have told my parents to “try again”.


3 posted on 12/20/2009 6:36:07 AM PST by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: Michael van der Galien

The Virgin Mary would have been forced into an abortion under ObamaCare.

Hey, hey, BHO.....!
Where did all your spending go?


4 posted on 12/20/2009 6:45:16 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Michael van der Galien
Mary's pregnancy was not unwanted. God picked Mary because of who she was and what she was willing and able to accept.

Chuck ought to read-re the Gospels. It's a good time about now for the Nativity story.

5 posted on 12/20/2009 6:58:40 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7

The better question is not whether Jesus would have been born, but whether Obama would have been born.


6 posted on 12/20/2009 7:06:29 AM PST by married21
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To: 2harddrive
The Virgin Mary would have been forced into an abortion under ObamaCare.

Mary would have done exactly what she did, regardless of evil in the government. Like the majority today, she followed God's will in her life. And today? I imagine we'll have more children born in a manger, a barn, or elsewhere outside the control of Obama/Pelosi's thugs. Perhaps one or more will turn out to be Obama's worst nightmare - a genuinely good man of God.

7 posted on 12/20/2009 7:31:32 AM PST by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: married21
The better question is not whether Jesus would have been born, but whether Obama would have been born.

That's the best (and only good) argument I've heard in favor of ObamaCare. Are you siding with the socialists?

8 posted on 12/20/2009 7:34:20 AM PST by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: Michael van der Galien

All Christians know the name of Mary, but few (unfortunately) know the name of Franz Jaegerstatter. He was an Austrian farmer who was executed by the Nazis in 1943 because he would not serve in Hitler’s army.

The relevant thing here, is that Jaegerstatter was born out of wedlock, and as a young man fathered an illegitimate child. He later married and experienced a religious conversion, which (among other things) impressed on his mind, strongly, the sanctity of all human life. His first recorded opposition to Hitler, in the early 1930’s, was in reference to Hitler’s pro-abortion policy, which Jargerstatter termed “a Herodian crime.” He also opposed the Nazi racial idolatry, though at the time, he was probably uninformed and unaware of the extent of the Nazis’ genocidal crimes.

But Jaegerstatter didn’t need a detailed analysis. To him, it was clear. He said:

“Nazism is an immoral philosophy, Hitler is an immoral man, and this is an immoral war.”

So there is a certain Catholic tradition which considers Jaegerstatter not only an anti-Nazi martyr (he was beheaded at the Berlin-Brandenberg prison on August 9, 1943), but a patron saint in the struggle against the “Herodian” crime of abortion.

Jaegrstatter’s story can be read here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_J%C3%A4gerst%C3%A4tter


9 posted on 12/20/2009 8:00:02 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West" - Aragorn)
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To: married21
The better question is not whether Jesus would have been born, but whether Obama would have been born.

Excellent. If Roe was the law in'61, 0 would not be president.

10 posted on 12/20/2009 9:35:00 AM PST by Tribune7
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