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Senate health Care Debate - Live Thread
C-Span ^ | 12/19/09 | US Senate

Posted on 12/19/2009 4:34:45 AM PST by BCrago66

Right now, the Senate is voting on a procedural motion to table debate on the Defense bill - which Republicans are hoping to filibuster, in an effort to stall debate on the upcoming Health bill. Because Lieberman didn't show up today, the Republicans just need to stick together on this to prevail - without defections from Collins or Snowe.

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To: j.argese

Yes, a Kennedy top aide sits in his seat. They have the 60 votes.


101 posted on 12/19/2009 6:34:11 AM PST by onyx
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To: BCrago66
The essence of it is that that Nebraska - and apparently only Nebraska - will now get greater Medicare or Medicaid reimbursement from the federal government. That’s the great principle that Ben Nelson held out for.

I can't find the sweetheart deal that Bill (not Ben) Nelson supposedly got for certain areas in the manager's amendment. Maybe your link is not the whole amendment. See this thead:

Nelson successfully tacked on an amendment to the sprawling Senate health care reform bill that would prevent cuts to Medicare Advantage plans offered in high cost areas -- particularly Florida but also New York and California.

102 posted on 12/19/2009 6:34:41 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Who was he talking about?)
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To: onyx

Another POS bill passed in the middle of the night.


103 posted on 12/19/2009 6:37:06 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: preamble

That’s how I read it too. If that is the case Nelson only really cared about the Medicaid cash. Politicians in the various states are going to be furious is they are now dragged into this mess and will have to vote on abortion funding bills thanks to this nonsense. Most importantly though, is that it is going to be very, very hard for Stupak and friends to support this in the House. This is not over. Reid seems to only care about getting something out of the Senate and punting problems with the bill over to Pelosi.


104 posted on 12/19/2009 6:38:15 AM PST by GOPToad
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Backroom deals.

The damn bill which NOBODY has read was written behind closed doors by Rahm, Reid, Schumer and other thugs.


105 posted on 12/19/2009 6:39:01 AM PST by onyx
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To: onyx

If they have the balls vote on it right now.


106 posted on 12/19/2009 6:39:40 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: onyx

What is Webb’s stance at the moment. He he still “undecided.”

As I see it, these filthy ‘Rats should all be undecided until Reid pays their price. That seems to be the game.


107 posted on 12/19/2009 6:40:03 AM PST by maggief
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To: onyx

I know there’s a way to go yet- but this is a kick in the gut to anyone who cherishes freedom and liberty.

Every day is like watching the iceberg and the Titanic on their inevitable course. I would like to be prepared- but it’s really hard to know what it’s going to look like when it finally hits.


108 posted on 12/19/2009 6:42:36 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Morning, doll.


109 posted on 12/19/2009 6:43:16 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: onyx

thanks!
Enjoy your Christmas and wishes for a Healthy and Prosperous for you and yours!


110 posted on 12/19/2009 6:43:23 AM PST by j.argese
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To: maggief

http://www.ajc.com/business/nelson-supports-health-bill-247324.html

Nelson disclosed his decision as Majority leader Harry Reid unveiled a final series of changes to the measure, including concessions to Nelson on abortion, funding for his state and more.

The legislation includes new limits designed to limit insurance company profits and overhead, by requiring them to spend 80 percent of their premium income on medical care for individual insurance policies, and 85 percent for group policies.

On abortion, the measure would let states disallow coverage in new insurance exchanges.


111 posted on 12/19/2009 6:43:23 AM PST by maggief
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To: incredulous joe

I agree. How could Obamacare be over possibly? It seems quite difficult to believe. :)


112 posted on 12/19/2009 6:43:28 AM PST by marthasp6s
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To: maggief

When I talked with Webb’s office, they directed me to his oped.

Apparently, he on board, but I’m not certain.

Like Nelson, Webb is up for reelection in 2012.

The junior senators, like Warner of VA were unhappy because they have been shut out of the process, but I doubt they’re unhappy enough to buck the party.

Reid has not received the CBO’s price tag and that may prove to be our last hope.


113 posted on 12/19/2009 6:44:02 AM PST by onyx
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To: SE Mom

I’m sick and enraged.

This whole ordeal has literally ruined Christmas.

I hate them all.

I told the priest last week, that it is impossible to remove the hatred from my heart that I hold for Obama and his party.


114 posted on 12/19/2009 6:46:22 AM PST by onyx
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Hey sweetie:) Been keeping odd working hours- miss my buds in the Levin Lounge.

Isn’t this a mess?


115 posted on 12/19/2009 6:46:27 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

I feel sick to honest.


116 posted on 12/19/2009 6:47:13 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: j.argese

Thank you, you’ve very kind.

Welcome to Free Republic and I hope you have a Blessed and Merry Christmas!

Don’t be a stranger around here.


117 posted on 12/19/2009 6:47:58 AM PST by onyx
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To: GOPToad
This is not over. Reid seems to only care about getting something out of the Senate and punting problems with the bill over to Pelosi.

Agreed, the House fight will be interesting.

118 posted on 12/19/2009 6:48:37 AM PST by HerrBlucher (Jail Al Gore and the Climate Frauds!)
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To: onyx
I told the priest last week, that it is impossible to remove the hatred from my heart that I hold for Obama and his party.

So, is the priest just another "social justice" democrat?

119 posted on 12/19/2009 6:50:13 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Snow must not be that bad in DC yet. Too bad.

Thank you, God, for trying.

120 posted on 12/19/2009 6:50:22 AM PST by 3catsanadog (If healthcare reform is passed, 41 years old will be the new 65 YO.)
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