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A 538 Year Record of Climate ......... Northern Siberia, Russia
JSTOR: Artic and Alpine Research ^ | November 4, 1998 | G.M.McDonald & R.A.Case

Posted on 12/14/2009 4:13:49 PM PST by muawiyah

“A 538-yr tree-ring chronology and reconstruction of June temperatures were developed from living and dead Larix dahurica trees. The samples were obtained near the lower Lena River in northern Siberia.

Dendrochronological techniques were used to estimate the ages of establishment and mortality of Larix dahurica on the presently treeless uplands and to determine the establishment dates of living trees in the lowlands. ………………………………… It was during the 19th century that the uplands lost much of their tree and soil cover. Recruitment of trees occurred in the lowlands during the 20th century, but trees have not been able to recolonize the uplands, possibly due to the lack of suitable soil”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climategate; globalwarminghoax; jones; larch; mann; michaelmann; russia; siberia; thelarch; treeringcircus; treerings
So, this is old news, but it's CURRENT EVIDENCE OF FRAUD. Notice that the type of trees sampled failed to recolonize the uplands where the sampled trees had lived earlier.

The "upland" is the very place where Dr. Mann got his tree ring samples ~ and there hadn't been any trees of the kind sampled growing there for 150 years.

That means there was no way any growth patterns in that upland area for the last 150 years could be compared to actual thermometer data.

This gave Dr. Mann the liberty of interpreting the tree ring samples however he wished without criticism.

So, it wasn't so much that Dr. Mann "cherry picked" his tree rings, but that he got tree rings from trees in an environment that simply could not be compared and contrasted against data from scientific instruments ~ to wit, thermometers.

No doubt the researchers who worked on this 1998 report Knew What Dr. Mann Did and why it was illegitimate.

I don't have time to go back and see if any of them ended up in the "AGW Denier" category.

1 posted on 12/14/2009 4:13:51 PM PST by muawiyah
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Beam Me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 12/14/2009 4:15:32 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: muawiyah

There are several emails in the hacked files attesting to the fact that they couldn’t get good tree ring data. They still claim tree ring data as a key support for Global Warming, though their data sucketh.


3 posted on 12/14/2009 4:19:35 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (KILL THE BILL!!!)
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These guys found the ONE tree growing in all of Siberia...and they cut it down!!


4 posted on 12/14/2009 4:24:36 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Yakutia (the homeland of the Sakha tribe) has lots of trees ~ this is "Souvrn' Siberia")

From time to time the climate deteriorates and the local tribes get on their ponies and move elsewhere. Shortly after 535AD (beginning of the Dark Ages) they abandoned Siberia and moved to Korea and Japan, neatly conquering both areas and becoming the ruling clique. In Japan these guys are called "The Daimyo" or "The Family".

In an earlier difficult time they'd gone all the way South to India ~ which they conquered sometime about 350 BC, but they were overthrown about 200 AD and "moved back" to Yakutia (They are known as the Sakha).

The people look Asiatic in this area, but they speak a Turcic language. There are videos on the internet about their homeland and you can see the trees and, best of all, the giant bunny rabbits.

5 posted on 12/14/2009 4:30:55 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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Chances are that this one tree could have been on the border of two mammalian territories, and every beast stopped by to pee on said tree, about June or so during the mating season....thus the stupid tree grew, got warmed up or hot or whatever....and these yo-yo scientists make a big deal out of an individual.

Real scientists would never make any assumption on an individual.

BA

6 posted on 12/14/2009 5:00:00 PM PST by Battle Axe (Repent, for the coming of the Lord is nigh.)
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I think Dr. Mann had cross-sections cut from a number of trees that'd washed down to the bottom of the hill.

This particular paper indicates that it didn't matter how he cherry picked his sub-samples since he had total liberty to interpret the tree rings any way he wished ~ with no one having a modern tree grown at that site to compare it's growth behavior to thermometers.

7 posted on 12/14/2009 5:27:54 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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Note: this topic was posted 12/14/2009, by muawiyah, who is no longer with us (in the virtual sense).

8 posted on 12/08/2013 5:39:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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And the last beautiful woman was behind it!


9 posted on 12/08/2013 5:40:13 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Is there any evidence those emails were actually “hacked?” What if they were leaked by an insider?


10 posted on 12/08/2013 5:40:17 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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This was the same time that Cassiodorus in Europe was reporting strange weather, a blue sun, a dim moon even when full no fruitful summer and no extremely cold winter. Just no change and no growth. A large boloid crash? A major volcanic event? But it did also seem to drive the steppe peoples out of central Asia, conquering or invading both East and West


11 posted on 12/08/2013 10:41:45 PM PST by gleeaikin
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David Key (or is it Keys?) put out a book, hmm, perhaps ten years ago, claiming that it was due to a volcano.


12 posted on 12/09/2013 3:55:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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