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To: Natural Law
"Archbishop Gianfranco Ravasi, the Vatican’s culture minister, said today that the theory of evolution is compatible with the Bible. The Vatican discourages literal interpretations of the Bible, including the literal interpretation of creationism that is at odds with the very solid scientific theory of evolution."

If that's what you want to believe and you're comfortable with that, that is your choice, but the Vatican speaks for the Roman Catholic Church only, not all of Christendom. Citing all of the Catholic church statements in the world are meaningless to those outside the Catholic Church.

It proves nothing, especially that their interpretation and opinion is correct. All it does is give Catholics the freedom to believe in evolution.

1,369 posted on 12/13/2009 10:00:54 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; Natural Law
>> If that's what you want to believe and you're comfortable with that, that is your choice, but the Vatican speaks for the Roman Catholic Church only, not all of Christendom. Citing all of the Catholic church statements in the world are meaningless to those outside the Catholic Church. <<<

It's true that citing all the Vatican statements in the world isn't going to sway anyone who's not a Catholic. That being said, from the Catholic Church's POV, the Vatican's proclaims do indeed speak for (and are meant for) ALL of Christendom, and the only reason they don't have that power is that non-Catholics refuse to recognize the Vatican's authority.

It should be noted as a matter of historical record that for the first 1000 years of Christianity's existence, statements issued by the Vatican were accepted worldwide by all the Christians as the definitive statement for Christianity on all matters of their faith -- the buck stopped there, so to speak. It wasn't until 1054 A.D. that the Christian communion worldwide was broken and two factions (now known as Catholic & Orthodox) refused to recognize each other's pronouncements as applying to them.

Prior to 1054 A.D., ALL Christians worldwide (Roman or otherwise) accepted the Pope's authority over such matters, whether their particular type of church was itself "Roman" or not. You also could not convene a worldwide Christian council without approval of the Vatican first (and if the Pope himself didn't attend in person, he would send delegates from Rome to be involved in the sessions and report back to him)

Just a little tidbit about how Christendom worldwide originally functioned. I'm not sure how relevant it is to protestants, since I believe their basic premise is the teachings of Christ became corrupted until protestants "restored" them in the 1600s.

>> It proves nothing, especially that their interpretation and opinion is correct. All it does is give Catholics the freedom to believe in evolution. <<

Correct, the Catholic Church has not issued a statement confirming whether or not all the current theories about evolution are factually correct. The Catholic Church (at least in modern times) tends to avoid making rulings on matters of science that are outside its scope. All the Catholic Church has said is that one can believe in the theory of evolution and still be a good Christian, and that the basic theory of evolution itself is not incompatible with the tenants of Christianity. I think (but can't be certain) that most non-Catholics worldwide would agree with the church's statement on that.

Also, for the reason, I'm not familiar with metmom's posting history but I don't see anything she posted on this thread that strikes me as having contempt or bigotry against Catholics. And I've met some real nasty anti-Catholic freepers, that's I tend to avoid crevo threads.

1,441 posted on 12/13/2009 11:18:12 AM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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