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Donofrio confirms Chrysler-Dealers’ lawsuit
The Post & Email ^ | John Charlton

Posted on 12/08/2009 12:18:05 PM PST by vharlow

The Post & Email can confirm this afternoon, that Attorneys Leo Donofrio and Steven Pidgeon are representing a group of Chrysler Automotive dealers in seeking legal redress to their loss of their franchises following the direct and unconstitutional involvement of Barack Hussein Obama in the Chrysler reorganization.

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; chrysler; chysler; donofrio; fraud; leo; leodonofrio; obama; obamaeligibility; quowarranto
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To: vharlow

Bump!!! Bring it on!!!


21 posted on 12/08/2009 1:05:13 PM PST by circumbendibus (Where's the Birth Certificate?)
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To: stockpirate
In before the anti-birther trolls show up!

BTTT

22 posted on 12/08/2009 1:13:52 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Oath keepers + The NRA = FReeRepublic (.com baby))
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To: Muzzle_em

I’m so sick of you folks who cannot seem to understand that there is a difference between a “citizen” and a “natural born citizen” (which is what the Constitution requires for someone to be President).

I’m a perfect example. I’m a citizen due to my being born in California. But I’m not a natural born citizen because my father wasn’t a citizen at the time I was born (and the country of which he was a citizen recognized the citizenship of children, so I was born with dual citizenship).

So stop trying to use these inane arguments about whether Obama is a citizen to confuse and muddy up the issue. It’s not about his citizenship, it’s about whether or not he’s a natural born citizen. (Although even his “plain old” citizenship is on shaky ground as a result of the questions about his traveling on foreign passports that have come up, and never been addressed.)


23 posted on 12/08/2009 1:14:03 PM PST by The4thHorseman
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To: Muzzle_em

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.

The definition of the term, “natural born citizen”, was entered into the Congressional record of the House on March 9, 1866, in comments made by Rep. John Bingham on the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which was the precursor to the Fourteenth Amendment. He repeated Vattel’s definition when he said:

“[I] find no fault with the introductory clause, which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen. . . . ” — John A. Bingham, (R-Ohio) US Congressman, March 9, 1866 Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866), Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes (1866).


24 posted on 12/08/2009 1:15:37 PM PST by WVPatriot
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To: WVPatriot

“I, [insert name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

Why should our soldiers have to swear the portion of that oath about obeying the orders of an illegitimate President?

We the People should have never allowed that to happen. It is up to We the People to ensure that our soldiers never have to obey any orders from an illegitimate President.


25 posted on 12/08/2009 1:30:29 PM PST by WVPatriot
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To: vharlow

That will not happen. Obama will harken to their complaints and out of his own magnanimous and generous heart (and our wallets) he will provide these dealers their due.

The chosen one will say something like:
“They were the unfortunate citizens who were trampled in the machinery of government at a time when swift and decisive action was required. It is only right that they be compensated for this unintended loss (with your money to cover my a$$).”


26 posted on 12/08/2009 1:43:30 PM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: vharlow
From the comment section at the Post and Email:

From Follow the Constituion:

This will be interesting to see how quick they move to resolve this issue with the dealers that had their franchises stolen away from them with these new lawsuits filed. Especially the Quo-Warranto suit. They will need to make this go away and the quickest way to do that would be to resolve all the issues with this dealers before they go to court!

Congress crafts new bill for rejected dealers

12/07/2009, 10:40 PMBy Mark Kleis

A new bill was crafted by House leaders over the weekend that is aimed at providing better third-party arbitration for rejected GM and Chrysler dealerships. The new bill differs from last week’s offering due to the addition of more favorable circumstances for the dealerships.

Source

27 posted on 12/08/2009 1:55:40 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: The4thHorseman
I’m so sick of you folks who cannot seem to understand that there is a difference between a “citizen” and a “natural born citizen”

Like the guy in the black robe?

I’m a perfect example. I’m a citizen due to my being born in California. But I’m not a natural born citizen because my father wasn’t a citizen at the time I was born

That's odd. My son was also born in California. His mother (my wife) is not a U.S. citizen yet my son is a natural born citizen as recognized by the U.S. Constitution and all current legal precedent.

Me? I'm sick of birthers who are pimping their fictional definition of Natural Born Citizen, a definition of eligibility created specifically to be one that Obama couldn't meet, as though it is the Law of the Land and then acting incredulous that nobody is buying it.

Again, I'll repeat, Nobody. Is. Buying. It.

28 posted on 12/08/2009 2:08:02 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Muzzle_em
You are thinking about a Cesarean birth
29 posted on 12/08/2009 2:21:58 PM PST by spokeshave (Albore can uninvent the internet about as well as 0bama can unjump the shark)
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To: Muzzle_em

It has been a common held belief, for two centuries, that Dual Citizens are forbiden from the presidency.

Our PC MSM has decided it no longer applies if said applicant has a dark tan and gives them woodies.


30 posted on 12/08/2009 2:23:42 PM PST by PA-RIVER (Don't blame me. I voted for the American guy.)
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To: Drew68
Thats odd. My Daughter was born in PA. I am a natural born citizen, as both my parents were citizens at the time of my birth.

However, my daughter is not a natural born citizen. My daughter is a dual citizen, with rights to two countries. Her mother is not a US citizen.

So why is it that your son is not endowed with rights to two citizenship's? And if he is, why cant he run for president in the US and then run for president in his other country of citizenship? And which would he then be loyal to if he were to exercise that right? Please reply.

31 posted on 12/08/2009 2:33:27 PM PST by PA-RIVER (Don't blame me. I voted for the American guy.)
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To: Drew68

And by the way, that picture is the most horrible thing I have seen, so please, send it to Kenya where the communist muslim family will appreciate it.


32 posted on 12/08/2009 2:36:33 PM PST by PA-RIVER (Don't blame me. I voted for the American guy.)
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To: Drew68

Everybody is buying it, that’s why his poll numbers are cratering.

Btw NancyDrew-—your son is not nor will he ever be a Natural Born Citizen and if you’re not careful he may grow up to be a bed-wetting, simpering, Obama rumpswab like his dad.


33 posted on 12/08/2009 2:36:56 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: clintonh8r
but what’s with the feel-good Chrysler commercials featuring Gorby, Mandela, etc? Hey Chrysler! Stop trying to impress us (with OUR MONEY

here is a thread/link explains_;After Taking U.S. Bailout, Chrysler Hires Italian Agency

34 posted on 12/08/2009 2:43:47 PM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Thanks!


35 posted on 12/08/2009 3:00:10 PM PST by clintonh8r (Oath Keeper and Manhattan Declaration signer)
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To: clintonh8r
you're welcome- will have you shaking your head.
36 posted on 12/08/2009 3:03:24 PM PST by opentalk
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To: WVPatriot
Have you given some thought to what kind of precedent it would set or what the consequences would be if service members could choose whether or not to obey orders based on whether or not they happened to think the President was legitimate or not?
37 posted on 12/08/2009 3:09:29 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: Muzzle_em

Because according to the laws at the time, she’d not spent two years as a legal adult in the U.S. The laws are different now, but we are supposed to be a nation of laws, not men. There are plenty of details of exactly what section of the U.S. Code on some of the birth cert sites.


38 posted on 12/08/2009 3:15:46 PM PST by zeugma (Proofread a page a day: http://www.pgdp.net/)
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To: WVPatriot

Ok.
To recap then, a “natural born citizen” is to be born IN the United States (or within the jurisdiction of the United States) to 2 parents who are BOTH U.S. citizens.

Is THIS correct?


39 posted on 12/08/2009 3:18:17 PM PST by Muzzle_em (Adopt a new furry best friend today! They have nothing but love to give.)
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To: WVPatriot

Ok.
To recap then, a “natural born citizen” is to be born IN the United States (or within the jurisdiction of the United States) to 2 parents who are BOTH U.S. citizens.

Is THIS correct?


40 posted on 12/08/2009 3:18:55 PM PST by Muzzle_em (Adopt a new furry best friend today! They have nothing but love to give.)
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