It doesn’t matter, really....he’s a lousy president no matter what!
He lies when the truth would be easier...who knows what is
the truth where this guy is concerned!!
This piece fails my test.
It seems a cut-n-dried recitation of the basic facts known/asserted.
I am sure some birther-inclined will nit-pick, but the two newspaper birth announcements sealed it for me that it was ‘case closed’ that he was born in Honolulu. You have to come up with a bizarre (and based wholly on speculation) scenario to have Barry O. not born in Honolulu.
More here:
http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2009/08/birther-madness-ii-bhos-birthplace.html
Thornton's ignorant blindness self-verified.
I'm from Missouri...SHOW ME. Where is the constitutional lawyer's cite of legal authority for such a claim, where is the cite(s) of precedent? On Snopes? BWAHAAAHAAAA!
Whether Zero was born in the U.S. or not, he is NOT a Natural Born Citizen because BOTH of his parents weren't U.S. Citizens.
Aside from the Constitutional “natural born” issue, little Barry was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, and spent some years in Indonesia. Barry was registered (as a Muslim) in a school you had to be Indonesian to attend. He recently stated to the school chil’run of America that he didn’t go to the school the Americans went to. Indonesia did not recognize dual citizenship.
Barry traveled to Pakistan as a young man, at a time Americans could not travel there. On what passport did he travel? The summer of the 2008 election, passports of Barry, McCain and Hillary were reportedly improperly accessed. A young man who was supposed to be a witness in the investigation was killed before he was able to testify.
Did young Barry legally become Indonesian upon his adoption? Did Stanley Ann forget to re-Americanize him when they returned to the U.S. after her divorce from Soetoro? Did Barry have to choose which citizenship he would retain?
If the passport files can be breached, they can be altered. I doubt anything out of the ordinary will ever show up there.
Did Barry apply to Occidental as a foreign student?
Odd that he left no paper trail, no records of his grades or his writings, except two premature books written before he had accomplished anything, a Illinois State Senate record and U.S. Senate record of voting “present”.
There is no end to the problems with this guy.
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”
So why has he incurred over $1,000,000 in legal fees. No doubt he is a citizen...but why not shut everyone up by producing the long form?
It’s a stretch for this guy or that article to even be called “ Conservative “ a wolf in sheeps clothing.
Obama Signed Resolution Describing Him As Ineligible
This is an oldie, but it needs to be revisited, since the Obots still argue that Obama is eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief.
On April 10, 2008, Sens. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduced a resolution expressing the sense of the U.S. Senate that presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was a ‘natural born Citizen,’ as specified in the Constitution and eligible to run for president. Sen. McCaskill knew Obama was not a U.S. Citizen, that’s why she introduced this bill — dressing it up to look like it was in Sen. John McCain’s cause.
It was during the bill’s hearing that Sen. Patrick Leahy, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, made the following statement:
“Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen,” said Leahy. “I expect that this will be a unanimous resolution of the Senate.”
At a Judiciary Committee hearing on April 3, Leahy asked Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, himself a former Federal judge, if he had doubts that McCain was eligible to serve as President.
“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied.
“That is mine, too,” said Leahy.
What’s interesting here is that Sen. Leahy, the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary, confirms that a “natural born” citizen is the child of American citizen parents.
Parents — that’s two. That’s BOTH parents.
Every time the words, “citizen” and “parent,” are used by Sen. Leahy and Sec. Chertoff, the plural case, “citizens” and “parents,” is used. The plural case is the operative case.
It is Sen. Leahy’s opinion — his own recorded words, in a formal Senate Resolution and on his U. S. Senate website — that Barack Obama is not a “natural born” citizen, and therefore not eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief, regardless of his birthplace.
Obama had one American parent —singular — his mother. His father was a citizen of Kenya, and a subject of Great Britain.
Obama, himself, “at birth,” was a citizen of Kenya, and a subject of Great Britain — he says so on his own campaign website. This fact introduces the concept of “divided loyalties,” — the reason the founders created the eligibility requirement in the first place — a fact that further underlines Obama’s ineligibility.
The source of this information is Sen. Leahy’s own website. The webpage contains a statement about the resolution; the resolution, itself; the Statement Of Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.); and an excerpt of Sec. Chertoff’s testimony.
The plural word “parents” is used four times. When used to identify the parents, the word “citizens” is used five times. That’s nine times that Sen. Leahy, on his own website describes the eligibility requirement. There is NO PLACE in any of these four documents where the singular case of “parent” or “citizen” is used.
The real purpose of this bill was to change article II, section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States with reference to the requirements of being a “natural born citizen” by the Democratic Party leadership — paving the way for an Obama run.
Both Leahy and Chertoff avoid addressing the “in the US mainland” (jus solis) element of the eligibility requirement and focus solely on parentage (jus sanguinis) in making their arguments and by doing so bring focus to the fundamental reason Obama is not qualified. He had one American parent and one foreign parent. Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen — no matter where he was born.
Obama is a co-signer of this resolution. So, I guess he too agrees that one needs two American parents to be eligible for POTUS — except he doesn’t care — after all, he’s the Obamamessiah. Rules don’t apply to him.
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaNaturalBorn.htm#LeahyResolution
The simple question is if the BC is legit, why all the effort and expense to block access and hide it?
In June, 2008, after viewing the Certification of Live Birth, provided on Obama’s Fight the Smears website, Janice Okubo, of the Hawaii Health Department stated, “I don’t know that it’s possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents.”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
It should be noted that this statement is found in the same article that the liberal Snopes uses as proof that Hawaii verified Obama’s Certification of Live Birth as being genuine, and was Okubo’s final word on the matter. Hawaii will not even state that they issued the document to Obama. It should also be noted that the State of Hawaii routinely issues COLBs to children born OUTSIDE of the United States, when their birth is registered with that State. When the birth is registered, a birth announcement is placed in the newspapers-so neither the COLB or the Newspaper announcements are proof that Obama was born in Hawaii. It is true that Fukino stated that vital records indicate that Obama was born in Hawaii, but it is illegal for her to make such a statement, if she was referencing birth records, so it is quite possible that she was only getting that information from the letter that Obama sent to the hospital during their Centennial celebrations, claiming he was born there. At any rate, we are being asked to accept the word of one Obama supporter, who will provide no documents to back up her claim.
But what about yourself? Why are you not willing to bring up this issue of whether or not Obama is legally eligible to serve as POTUS?
Isn't it time for YOU to ask the question, "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?", Glenn?
I won’t deny that the question whether Barack Obama is a natural born American citizen is extremely important and that I can understand why so many are worked up about it. That said, I think many lose sight of the fact that it’s all speculation and it’s not even speculation that’s bought into universally by all conservatives.
It’s been said by a couple others on this thread and I think it bears repeating. Pouncing on this issue at this point in time is strongly hurting our ability to deal with and gain public support on other issues. People who might otherwise be inclined to take our side on pressing issues like the Health Care bill take a look at our focus upon this Birth Certificate matter and write us off as kooks. That is dangerous. We’re pushing an issue that, while important, has no credibility among the majority of the American people and doing damage to our ability to advance reasonable positions on vital pressing issues where we really do have the opportunity to swing public opinion.
After President Bush was elected, one of the dumbest things that the Dems did was to continue blasting away at the Florida recounts and the election results. While they focused on that, President Bush and Congressional Republicans simply kept pushing forward with their agenda, safely trusting that Dems were looking nutty to most people. We need to be careful because we are doing the same thing. We’ll gain far more ground by focusing on matters at hand and gaining momentum and credibility than we will by focusing on an issue most people dismiss out of hand.
Some may find the following video of interest:
Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQI
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This may be the start of another Coordinated Defense of Obo and eligibility. Several months ago, there was a wave of attacks across the US against birthers in all the major news outlets with the same talking points. I saw a similar article on FR linked to Florida Times Union.