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Were Russian security services behind the leak of 'Climategate' emails?
dailymail.co.uk ^ | Dec.6, 2009 | Will Stewart and Martin Delgado

Posted on 12/06/2009 10:22:11 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Suspicions were growing last night that Russian security services were behind the leaking of the notorious British ‘Climategate’ emails which threaten to undermine tomorrow’s Copenhagen global warming summit.

An investigation by The Mail on Sunday has discovered that the explosive hacked emails from the University of East Anglia were leaked via a small web server in the formerly closed city of Tomsk in Siberia.

The leaks scandal has left the scientific community in disarray after claims that key climate change data was manipulated in the run-up to the climate change summit of world leaders.

The row erupted when hundreds of messages between scientists at the university’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) and their colleagues around the world were placed on the internet along with other documents.

The CRU is internationally recognised as one of the most important sources of information on the rise in global temperatures.

Its data is relied on by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the UN body which co-ordinates the world response to climate change.

But now the CRU’s findings are under suspicion.

The leaked emails appear to show that CRU director Professor Phil Jones and colleagues attempted to manipulate the figures and hide their raw data from researchers with opposing views.

Prof Jones has stepped aside from his post while claims are investigated that he wanted certain papers excluded from the United Nations’ next major assessment of climate science.

Russia – one of the world’s largest producers and users of oil and gas – has a vested interest in opposing sweeping new agreements to cut emissions, which will be discussed by world leaders in Copenhagen tomorrow.

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To: jessduntno

I’d be more worried about where that monkey flew out of!

Great to watch the climate liars claim the KGB is after them, though.


21 posted on 12/06/2009 10:56:17 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I don't care who did it. We all owe them a big thanks.(*) Heck, I'd like to buy whoever did it a beer.

(*) Note, the frauds in government, academia, and the various "scientists" in climate science probably aren't thanking them for blowing their scam open.

22 posted on 12/06/2009 10:56:40 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Its not like it was the secret moose berries or anything.

Keel Moose Do Not Keel Moose.


23 posted on 12/06/2009 10:56:51 AM PST by lucias_clay (All We Weed Up !)
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To: ScaniaBoy

It’s ironic that the Norfolk police and Scotland Yard, along with (possibly) Britains intelligence agencies (M15 and M16), are conducting a criminal probe to try to uncover the hacker, yet Phil Jones, Michael Mann, and the rest of the fraudsters remain free and unindicted.


24 posted on 12/06/2009 11:11:33 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I’m not sure “ironic” is the term I’d use, but I let it go with that. I’m sure you and I are in full agreement what ought to happen to those fraudsters.


25 posted on 12/06/2009 11:14:56 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t believe it.

As Vaclav Klaus has stated, ecocommunism is the new home of old Soviet-style communism.

The Soviets wouldn’t want this information released because it is part of the effort to destroy the free-market system and capitalism.

And their use of petroleum is irrelevant. They’ll do whatever the hell they want despite what the rest of the world does and demands others to do.


26 posted on 12/06/2009 11:15:42 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If yes, it will be the 1st time in my life I have been grateful for the existence of the KGB. (or whatever they are calling the KGB today).


27 posted on 12/06/2009 11:16:21 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Demand Constitutionality)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I am thinking it was not so smart an idea by Obama and Pelosi to challenge the CIA after all.

I bet that more stuff gets leaked at the 11th hour on a ton of issues


28 posted on 12/06/2009 11:17:38 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: jessduntno
You’re lucky...I now have a monkey flying around the room...

And a sore butt

29 posted on 12/06/2009 11:18:30 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Demand Constitutionality)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Maybe emails were leaked for all the wrong reasons, but still these are the emails between the so-called scientists discussing how to defraud the entire world.
30 posted on 12/06/2009 11:26:19 AM PST by alecqss
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To: Free ThinkerNY

31 posted on 12/06/2009 11:31:06 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Munz
Yup. Classic old time CAI op. Leak it and make it look like the Russkies did it. That was my first thought when I saw a Russian server was one of the points.
32 posted on 12/06/2009 11:33:28 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There was some mention of possible Russian hackers right at the start of this business.

But I fail to see why Russia would do this. Russia was extremely eager for the U.S. to sign on to Kyoto, because they were supposed to be one of the beneficiaries.

I don’t know how that stands with Copenhagen. But Russia would have no compunction about simply refusing to join unless they benefitted from it. That’s what they’ve always done, and that’s what people expect them to do. No one would be surprised.

It’s always the U.S. that is subjected to moral pressure. Russia is immune to it.


33 posted on 12/06/2009 11:36:46 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The MSM won’t report this, so we have to.

Tell everybody you know - BEST ClimateGate clips:

http://BraveNewCommie.com


34 posted on 12/06/2009 11:41:04 AM PST by Islam=Murder (Hitler hated his Jewish side; Omoslem hates his white side.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

When Pelosi took on the CIA I thought it was only a matter of time before they went after her. When Obama allowed them to be put under the microscope I knew it would happen to them in the most embarrassing way that an operative could dream up.

Hey, you want to make it hard for these guys to do their jobs in the conventional way, then they have time on their hands.
They can find other ways of defending America, like exposing Obama Pelosi and Reid for what they are.

Russia has absolutely NO reason to expose this at all. What would their reason be, they are trying to help the US economy? Hardly!

On the other hand, op’s would have every reason to do it.

I say score one for the good guys.


35 posted on 12/06/2009 11:46:03 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The CRU is internationally recognised ...

By whom?

ML/NJ

36 posted on 12/06/2009 11:49:06 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Munz

I understand your explanation (of US intel making it look like Russian ops did this...)But...

Were I a knowingly, policy/grant driven, pointy headed academic...and I thought that KGB types were ‘questioning’ my motivations/theories, I dare say I would feel threatend (and not just careerwise).

If this wasn’t just an honest ‘whistleblower’ then everything changes for the players in this. Criminal charges would almost be comforting.


37 posted on 12/06/2009 12:02:39 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (She's not quitting...she's reloading.)
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To: Munz
Russia has absolutely NO reason to expose this at all. What would their reason be, they are trying to help the US economy?

To the contrary, the Russian have EVERY reason to expose this. Along with Saudi Arabia, they are one of the largest producers and exporters of oil and gas. Which, in a carbon credit regime, would be made much more costly -- and, thus, less in demand.

38 posted on 12/06/2009 12:04:15 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“Suspicions were growing last night that Russian security services were behind the leaking of the notorious British ‘Climategate’ emails”

Heh heh heh,,,wonder if they've black-bagged any place in Hawaii? Heck, maybe they wanted to send a message to someone in our government who has any documents he wants to keep hidden....

39 posted on 12/06/2009 12:09:46 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: Paleo Conservative

I know a lady from Tomsk. She was quite amused when I told her town was in the news.


40 posted on 12/06/2009 12:12:25 PM PST by CT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slx8CCjoL4E&feature=related)
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