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Big developing states reject Copenhagen climate plan (Ruh-ROH!)
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 12/2/09 | Krittivas Mukherjee and Gerard Wynn

Posted on 12/02/2009 12:18:12 PM PST by NormsRevenge

NEW DELHI/LONDON (Reuters) – China and other big developing nations rejected core targets for a climate deal such as halving world greenhouse gas emissions by 2050 just five days before talks start in Copenhagen, diplomats said on Wednesday.

China, the world's top emitter, together with India, Brazil and South Africa demand that richer nations do more and have drawn "red lines" limiting what they themselves would accept, the diplomats told Reuters.

The four rejected key targets proposed by the Danish climate talks hosts in a draft text -- halving global greenhouse gases by 2050, setting a 2020 deadline for a peak in world emissions, and limiting global warming to a maximum 2 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial times, European diplomats said.

Developing nations want richer countries to do much more to cut their emissions now before they agree to global emissions targets which they fear may shift the burden of action to them, and crimp their economic growth.

"We cannot agree to the 50/50 (halving emissions by 2050) because it implies that ... the remaining (cuts) must be done by developing countries," South Africa's chief climate negotiator Alf Wills said, partly confirming the EU diplomats' comments.

Rich nations' carbon offers so far were far below those recommended by a U.N. panel of scientists, Wills told Reuters, making clear that developing nations could change their stance if industrialized states tightened their carbon targets.

The dispute underscored a rich-poor rift which has haunted the two-year talks to agree a new global climate deal to succeed the Kyoto Protocol in 2013 and dampens hopes of rescuing the December 7-18 Copenhagen summit.

A legally binding deal is already out of reach for the U.N. talks, with only a political deal possible.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 20091207; 20091218; 2013; brazil; china; climategate; copenhagen; hopenhagen; india; kyotoprotocol; nopenhagen; reject; safrica; southafrica
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1 posted on 12/02/2009 12:18:12 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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Oxfam (Oxford Committee for Famine Relief) demonstrators dressed as polar bears make their way to present a petition to the Prime Minster's Office on Parliament Hill in Ottawa December 2, 2009. Oxfam wants Canada to pay more to help developing countries deal with climate change. Canada's Prime Minister Stephen Harper is currently on a trip to China. REUTERS/Blair Gable (CANADA ENVIRONMENT)


2 posted on 12/02/2009 12:18:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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FReepmail me to get on or off

Ping me if you find one I've missed.


re-hash of earlier rooters story...
3 posted on 12/02/2009 12:19:18 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

4 posted on 12/02/2009 12:19:27 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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Artist Tracey Emin poses in front of her piece "I loved you like the sky" during the press preview of "Earth: Art of a changing world" at the Royal Academy of Art in London December 1, 2009. The exhibition of new and recent works by a broad range of contemporary artists across a wide range of media aims to reflect the impact of climate change. REUTERS/Andrew Winning (BRITAIN SOCIETY)


5 posted on 12/02/2009 12:20:14 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: NormsRevenge

HAHAHAAHAHHHAAAAHAHHAHA!!!

This comes after the US Senate has essentially killed cap and tax, and right after the Australians defeated a cap and trade law in their own parliament.

Honestly, what the hell is Obama’s dumb@ss gonna bloviate about at the Copenhagen summit?


6 posted on 12/02/2009 12:20:14 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: NormsRevenge

>>...demand that richer nations do more...<<

Since we are the worlds biggest debtor nation and in collapse, I can only assume they mean some nations other than the US.

:)


7 posted on 12/02/2009 12:20:33 PM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: NormsRevenge
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8 posted on 12/02/2009 12:20:52 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: NormsRevenge

I heard the other day that the UN said these countries would be more likely to get on board if “the West” ponied up 10 billion a year.


9 posted on 12/02/2009 12:21:13 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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Chart and maps showing the worst-case and best-case scenarios for global warming by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The European Union has said that cataclysmic climate change cannot be averted without Chinese leadership but Beijing stood firm in pushing for the rich world to take the lead. (AFP/Graphic)


10 posted on 12/02/2009 12:21:26 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: NormsRevenge

But has Tiger Woods rejected it yet?


11 posted on 12/02/2009 12:22:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
It is a shame so many elected Republicans jumped on the Man-Made Global Warming bandwagon. I would have been fantastic to say as a whole ... I TOLD YOU IT WAS ALL A FRAUD!

But enough Republicans fell for it to give the democrats cover.

12 posted on 12/02/2009 12:22:47 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: MrB
I heard the other day that the UN said these countries would be more likely to get on board if “the West” ponied up 10 billion a year.

Great - a "shake down" on top of a criminal fraud... charming. /s

13 posted on 12/02/2009 12:24:19 PM PST by GOPJ (Anthropogenic global warming-the most costly and widespread scientific FRAUD in history-James Lewis)
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To: NormsRevenge
So the US will go forward and then we will transfer what's left of US manufacturing to these developing countries. Brilliant. I guess 12% unemployment isn't good enough for the fools (Democrats). Maybe 20% is their goal.

Madness, shear madness!
14 posted on 12/02/2009 12:24:27 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ugly. The drawing sucks too.


15 posted on 12/02/2009 12:24:36 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: cripplecreek
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16 posted on 12/02/2009 12:25:09 PM PST by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: NormsRevenge

PS to the “rich developed” world: your check bounced


17 posted on 12/02/2009 12:25:11 PM PST by silverleaf (More folks being invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

A group of them did, but most stood strong, and we have tough advocates like Inhofe, DeMint, and Coburn who have been standing strong all along. Plus, our 2010 candidates are all against it. Even erstwhile supporters like Mark Kirk are turning their back on it.....better late than never.


18 posted on 12/02/2009 12:25:23 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: NormsRevenge
Since when is China, The richest, fastest growing, and most populace nation on Earth a developing nation. If you have the rest of the world in hock to you, congratulations, you are DEVELOPED.
19 posted on 12/02/2009 12:26:59 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Bad Jack Bauer

excellent!


20 posted on 12/02/2009 12:26:59 PM PST by silverleaf (More folks being invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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