Posted on 12/01/2009 9:38:18 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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Now you can call me a "neo-con" again, using that Dem pejorative anti-semitic term as often as you wish.
The probability that you were still in diapers while I was espousing and supporting across the board conservatism is quite strong. I can't be intimidated by the silliness of your accusations.
RE “:Now you can call me a “neo-con” again, using that Dem pejorative anti-semitic term as often as you wish.”.
LOL, I heard Levin call it anti-semitic too. You like his other brainless listeners swallow that line without thinking. IF ‘neo-con’ is anti-semantic, why do most Jews vote “anti-neocon” ? Are you saying the 80% of Jews that voted democrat are anti-semitic?
Thanks for the diversion from reality. Enjoy your Wiki "research."
Correction: “ to a brain dead non-thinking robot ”. You are like the robots in sci-fi movies that when you hear the truth that conflicts with programming, your Levin control chip signals:” dangerous ideas, conflicts with the prime directive. Shut down, shut down all thinking, call all dangerous ideas left wing ”
I was responding to Wpin’s TARP loving post, but knew you’d enjoy hearing me point out that you cannot be both a conservative and a Bush lover ;^)
RE :”The probability that you were still in diapers while I was espousing and supporting across the board conservatism is quite strong”
The sure sign a FRer is full of s.... is when their only argument is : “I am a real conservative, you are not”.
Right now his hands are on his ears, “Not listening”
'Cept millions of us are, 'cause we "get it."
You know....... morality, the sanctity of life, honor, integrity, courage, patriotism...............that stuff.
I listen to truth and reason. Whenever you feel like saying something true or reasonable, give me a buzz.
Or not.
Yeah, all the social conservative ideals that I share with you, which allowed us to be pandered to. How can you not be (as a conservative) upset about big government, big spending, open borders, and nationalized banks? I voted for W because I’m pro-life (my no 1 issue), pro Israel and national security (my no 2 issue), and he pandered to me in those areas. On National Security I feel he fought a splendid war...but left the borders open. Limited government (my number 3 issue, which includes limited spending) is one of the three crucial legs to the conservative stool. Without that leg, the stool falls over. I get that you are a social conservative, as am I, but you must at some point come to a decision to be honest with yourself about the whole conservative picture. Reagan: conservative. Palin: conservative. Bush: definately not.
RE :”On National Security I feel he fought a splendid war...but left the borders open”
I have even changed my thoughts on that. He had to be special to get the majority of the american public to prefer democrats over republicans from 2007-2008. I know the Bush-bots will claim it all MSM lies. I mean wanting democrats? Obama ? National security? You gotta be special to do that.
As far as the economy goes, I will save that for other threads.
In that area, conservative, originalist judges and SC Justices, President Bush even outranks Reagan. There is no Sandra Day O'Connor among his appointees.
I am completely "honest with myself." Don't misunderstand my enthusiasm for President Bush (which I proudly wear), as agreement with every policy. I understand the problem with limited government and spending, but I also see the tax-cutting and pro-business policies that Bush has as part of the overall conservatism. I am also (see my tagline) strongly pro-military and national defense, and in that, President Bush is unsurpassed.
But I think this discussion, which is essentially a hijack of this thread (about Rochester police, right? :), should be ended, so I will do my part to do so.
Hopefully you and I have a better understanding of each other because of this conversation.
When one does what one believes to be the right thing based on conviction, it is not in any way, shape or form, "pandering."
President Bush never did that. You know that, if you understand that he is a man of character. He believed strongly in the sanctity of life, and stood for life at every point in his administration. The idea that he was "pandering" is absurd. He did what he believed. And it was the right thing.
RE :”but I also see the tax-cutting and pro-business policies that Bush has as part of the overall conservatism.”
Yes, tax cutting while increasing spending. That was brilliant. His TARP speech was a big surpise given that brilliant strategy. I will say one thing, TARP was pro-business, ie pro-bank , they get the gains, we pay.
BTW: Libs are complaining about TARP and Geitner too. Does that make them good too?
I have no idea where you get your notions from, but that’s OK. You keep your delusions; I’ll stick with facts and the Constitution. I spent my adult life protecting my country from her enemies, whether communism or terrorism, so I have more than a passing acquaintance with how things work.
We had MULTIPLE attacks on our people IN THIS COUNTRY which, well prior to even BEGINNING an investigation, FBI and other “officials” were declaiming as NOT an act of terrorism; it’s all OK, go back to sleep.
Over the years, I had occasion to be part of more than one aircraft mishap investigation whenever we lost a helicopter to other than combat loss. We NEVER, ever came to the conclusion before the investigation was completed. So right now, YOU are in the position of those in the CRU... basing your conclusions on either invalid or NO data whatsoever.
And, NO, the best strategy is NOT to liberate and change the mid-east, for the simple reason that it cannot be done. The MOST we can do is to tell them that if they attack us again, we will destroy their “holy” places with nuclear devices so that their “prophet” can never crawl out from under his rock.
Further, to continue to chain Israel by virtue of our foreign aid dollars is utterly wrong. Israel needs to wean herself from that teat and fully take charge of her own best interests, instead of kowtowing to our “leadership.” Otherwise, the arabs and other slimeballs of the region will become ever more emboldened and keep on with their barbra striesand.
No, Nimrod, I KNOW history and I know what will NEVER work. And that is the panacea YOU are trying to prescribe. It has NEVER worked and never will. The ONLY place you will ever have muslims is either under your heel or at your throat. And if they think their precious symbols will be destroyed, proving theirs a phony religion, they will rest peaceably. Otherwise, they will be at our throats until we have to eradicate them from the planet. But YOUR Bush did this nation a GRAVE disservice by not once pointing these facts out to the American people. Instead, he turned around and called it a “religion of Peace,” always ignoring the atrocities committed in its name. So sorry to bust your bubble, bub.
Sounds like you lost before you even started, what nonsense...you don’t have any facts you just have depression. I can’t help you with that.
I think we have a troll here in sickoflibs...that or a very young person with limited knowledge. I am going to let him go. Waste of time...
President Bush did not takeovere the banks...he injected funds into the system very rapidly because someone(s) pulled huge amounts of money out of some banks in just a few hours. If he had not done that we would be in a severe, severe depression, much much worse than now. He put no strings to the money, it was a typical courageous Bush move which worked. When asked about leaving the democrats in a position to take advantage of the situation and take over private sectors he stated “I really do not believe the American people will allow that” and I think he is right.
In regards to spending, sure I would have much preferred he veto a bunch of spending from the congress. Remember, it is the congress who spends, not the President. But, in his defense...he had an incredible amount on his plate and there was a war being waged against him from within our nation by the traitors from the left. Not to mention the War On Terror, Katrina, Recession he inherited and resolved very quickly. He managed to protect us beautifully, he stood up for life and gave many of us confidence through his example. You will not find a more economic conservative than I, but we have to consider all the facts, not just pick and choose a couple. President Bush gave us tax cuts, tried to make private accounts for some of our retirement, restore the private ownership society, and so many wonderful things that most of you forget. So, hell he had to go along with a Republican congress who spent like democrats...he kept us free and safe. All the while doing so much incredible good throughout the world.
Do you realize he is credited with saving millions of lives in Africa? His actions in the middle east have helped bring some women’s rights to Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, not to mention Iraq and Afghanistan. He warned us this War on Terror would last far longer than his tenure as President, but that we must stay the course or there will be dire consequences.
History will be very good to President Bush, I am certain. He is truly one of the worlds greatest leaders of all time and it is a shame that so many do not get to truly enjoy the truth in that.
Under Bush’s watch, Paulson put 9 bankers in a room and made them take the money. That never would have happened under Reagan, or any other conservative. It did not prevent a severe depression. It was the opposite of a courageous move. He “chucked aside his free market principles to save the free market”, which is an asinise statement. You can make excuses for him all day, and some of them may even be good ones. All I ask is that you admit the man was not a conservative.
I'm curious as to why you believe that when "OUR Bush" directed the killing of thousands upon thousands of Islamofascists (he did call them that) in both Afghanistan and Iraq, it was the wrong thing to do. There were no terrorist attacks on our soil following his quick and decisive action, and terrorist attacks worldwide were more than cut in half, and he most certainly labeled the attacks and atrocities done in the name of Islam what they were, ALL the time.
At what point does your isolationism become suicidal? At what point does your "Bush is bad" philosophy make no sense whatsoever?
(Rhetorical questions, to which the answer is obvious).
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