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To: GodGunsGuts

You can prove evolution is a lie in one sentence. I won’t stick to just one sentence, but you could if you weren’t given to talking too much.

It is a random process, right? Mutations and selective breeding over countless years.

So where are all of evolution’s failures(that’s the one sentence, btw)? Show me the fossil of just one “impossible creature.” There should be an entire branch of science dedicated to them. For every random success...there should be a billion, a trillion, a gajillion failures.


5 posted on 12/01/2009 6:46:19 PM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts

They’re called dinosaurs.


6 posted on 12/01/2009 6:50:11 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Spike Knotts

You nailed it. The fossil record is still the biggest enemy of the neo-Darwinian synthesis. Add to that the incredible, evolution-defying discoveries we are making molecular and cell biology, and it is no wonder that so many evos are abandoning the HMS Beagle in search of a new God-denying evolutionary ship!


7 posted on 12/01/2009 6:50:17 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Spike Knotts
You can prove evolution is a lie in one sentence. I won’t stick to just one sentence, but you could if you weren’t given to talking too much.

It is a random process, right?

Wrong. Mutation is random, selection is non-random.

So where are all of evolution’s failures(that’s the one sentence, btw)? Show me the fossil of just one “impossible creature.” There should be an entire branch of science dedicated to them. For every random success...there should be a billion, a trillion, a gajillion failures.

Any organism, because it is in constant competition with others for scarce environment resources, mating opportunities, etc, will only be able to depart a small distance from a well adapted state before it is unable to successfully contribute its genes to future populations (or until it just dies directly). There's no opportunity to get anywhere near an advanced stage of maladaptation, i.e. being an “impossible creature.”

I mean, what are you even thinking here? Sorry to be blunt, but this is one of the dumbest antievolution arguments I've ever read. The whole idea of Darwinian evolution, after noting that organisms vary, is that survival and reproductive success depends on how well the particular mix of variations an organism possesses adapts it to these purposes.

But you're suggesting exactly the opposite: that evolution instead requires organisms to survive, successfully reproduce (and therefore be available to be preserved as fossils) even if, or without regard to whether, they are monstrously maladapted?! Where do you get this bizarre notion?

70 posted on 12/02/2009 1:07:00 AM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Spike Knotts

Cf. dinosaurs.


131 posted on 12/03/2009 4:10:57 PM PST by Locomotive Breath
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