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To: EternalVigilance
"They step away from the solid ground of principle provided by the Declaration of Independence reliance upon unalienable rights. By doing so, they set the stage for the ultimate defeat of the pro-life position."

Keyes goes too far here, as well as ignoring certain basic truths, first and foremost being that the pro life cause was defeated in 1973 with Roe V. Wade, which grants an almost absolute legal right to an abortion. That is now the law of the land, so I don't know what further defeat Keyes is worried about. Furthermore, the only way to reverse this problem is to overturn Roe V. Wade and get back to the point where it was a state's rights issue, then work from there.

Keyes is so fixated on moral and ideological perfection that he has lost his senses, especially when it comes to trashing Sarah Palin's pro life position.

26 posted on 11/27/2009 8:04:55 AM PST by Batrachian
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To: Batrachian
Furthermore, the only way to reverse this problem is to overturn Roe V. Wade and get back to the point where it was a state's rights issue, then work from there.

I totally disagree. Abortion is a state's right issue just like slavery was. To back peddle the abomination of Roe to the "states right's" issue is granting a legitimacy to killing the innocent that never existed prior to 1973. Then once you have granted that legitimacy how are you then going to take it to the next step of truth that "All men are created equal" and "In God We Trust"?

Abortion needs to be treated as the abomination that it is and we all need to keep fighting to the ultimate goal which is to banish it from America because it has no place here. We cannot give up because the tide it turning in favor of truth as indicated by the latest polls. It will be a long battle against evil and will not end anytime soon.

34 posted on 11/27/2009 8:26:05 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: Batrachian
Roe V. Wad...is now the law of the land

Can you show me where in the Constitution a bunch of black-robed legal hacks, responsible to no one and entrenched for life, are allowed to make law? Law-making is the job of the elected legislative branch. The majority of Americans are now pro-life.

Keyes is a disaster as a politician, because politics today is all about selling out the people and compromising with evil. Keyes is the conscience of America, not a politician.

39 posted on 11/27/2009 8:42:16 AM PST by hellbender
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To: Batrachian
ignoring certain basic truths, first and foremost being that the pro life cause was defeated in 1973 with Roe V. Wade, which grants an almost absolute legal right to an abortion. That is now the law of the land...
Furthermore, the only way to reverse this problem is to overturn Roe V. Wade and get back to the point where it was a state's rights issue, then work from there.

Your statement is not altogether true.
Of course, as constitutional law it was a disaster. But never once did the Supreme Court declare abortion itself to be a Constitutional right.

What SCOTUS said was:
"We need not resolve the difficult question of when life begins . . . the judiciary at this point in the development of man's knowledge, is not in a position to speculate as to the answer."

Man's knowledge has come a long way baby!
8 week unborn 8 week unborn child

They continued:
"If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant's case, of course, collapses, for the fetus' right to life is then guaranteed specifically by the [14th] Amendment."

The Life at Conception Act Follows the High Court's Instructions To Define When Life Begins.

Now the time to grovel before the Supreme Court is over.

Working from what the Supreme Court ruled in Roe, pro-life lawmakers can pass a Life at Conception Act and end abortion by using the Constitution instead of amending it.

A Life at Conception Act changes the focus of the abortion debate.
It takes the Supreme Court out of the equation and places responsibility squarely on the shoulders of the elected representatives who, unlike life term judges, must respond to grass-roots pressure.

58 posted on 11/27/2009 9:17:09 AM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Batrachian
ignoring certain basic truths, first and foremost being that the pro life cause was defeated in 1973 with Roe V. Wade, which grants an almost absolute legal right to an abortion. That is now the law of the land...
Furthermore, the only way to reverse this problem is to overturn Roe V. Wade and get back to the point where it was a state's rights issue, then work from there.

Your statement is not altogether true.
Of course, as constitutional law it was a disaster. But never once did the Supreme Court declare abortion itself to be a Constitutional right.

What SCOTUS said was:
"We need not resolve the difficult question of when life begins . . . the judiciary at this point in the development of man's knowledge, is not in a position to speculate as to the answer."

Man's knowledge has come a long way baby!
8 week unborn 8 week unborn child

They continued:
"If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant's case, of course, collapses, for the fetus' right to life is then guaranteed specifically by the [14th] Amendment."

The Life at Conception Act Follows the High Court's Instructions To Define When Life Begins.

Now the time to grovel before the Supreme Court is over.

Working from what the Supreme Court ruled in Roe, pro-life lawmakers can pass a Life at Conception Act and end abortion by using the Constitution instead of amending it.

A Life at Conception Act changes the focus of the abortion debate.
It takes the Supreme Court out of the equation and places responsibility squarely on the shoulders of the elected representatives who, unlike life term judges, must respond to grass-roots pressure.

59 posted on 11/27/2009 9:17:09 AM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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