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To: Batrachian
Furthermore, the only way to reverse this problem is to overturn Roe V. Wade and get back to the point where it was a state's rights issue, then work from there.

I totally disagree. Abortion is a state's right issue just like slavery was. To back peddle the abomination of Roe to the "states right's" issue is granting a legitimacy to killing the innocent that never existed prior to 1973. Then once you have granted that legitimacy how are you then going to take it to the next step of truth that "All men are created equal" and "In God We Trust"?

Abortion needs to be treated as the abomination that it is and we all need to keep fighting to the ultimate goal which is to banish it from America because it has no place here. We cannot give up because the tide it turning in favor of truth as indicated by the latest polls. It will be a long battle against evil and will not end anytime soon.

34 posted on 11/27/2009 8:26:05 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk
To back peddle the abomination of Roe to the "states right's" issue is granting a legitimacy to killing the innocent that never existed prior to 1973.

That is not correct. Abortion was legal in New York prior to Roe, for example.

But beyond that, we have to look at what can be achieved when and how. To create a federal amendment outlawing abortion would take 2/3rds of the Senate and 3/4s of the state legislatures - and please show us how that threshhold can be reached anytime soon. But if Roe is overturned, many states would quickly outlaw abortion within their borders.

Is that perfect? No. But is is doable, and would save at least half of the children aborted nowadway while public opinion shifts to the level of a consensus that can cross the amendment threshhold.

Don't make the perfect the enemy of the good - a lot of lives can be saved with the federalist argument sooner than by waiting for the perfect solution later, and the federalist approach can be the means to reach something better later.

45 posted on 11/27/2009 8:52:26 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: frogjerk
There WERE “States Rights” issues involved with slavery, study your history!

The Dred Scott decision and the “Fugitive Slave Law” trampled on the RIGHTS of free-soilers and Anti-Slavery States.

Much of the cause of the Civil War was due to Southern Slave States not respecting the rights of the anti-Slave States.

Again, get off of your moral high horses.

I suggest the Serenity Prayers.

What you want is not possible.

So, where do we go from here?

53 posted on 11/27/2009 9:07:13 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: frogjerk
"To back peddle the abomination of Roe to the "states right's" issue is granting a legitimacy to killing the innocent that never existed prior to 1973."

Abortion was legal in many states prior to 1973. Do you deny this or do you say that it's a meaningless fact? I bring it up because that's the situation that we'll revert to when Roe is overturned. Do you deny that? Put your feelings aside for a minute and just look at the legal situation.

63 posted on 11/27/2009 9:24:07 AM PST by Batrachian
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