[CottonBall]

I know my state has been surrenderd. The GOP hasn’t done anything of note here in twenty years. The leadership is non-existant.

People still have core values and concerns. They can still understand the premise of thier money being stolen from them via their paycheck. They can still understand the subject of sound education for their children. They can still understand property rights, jobs, and other issues. Our side doesn’t represent sound values in the state. We don’t win converts.

I don't see the people of CA as a lost cause - we vote conservatively on most propositions. Prop 187 is a good example, plus the one last May to not extend the tax increases.

The problem is the politicians. I'm guessing ACORN and their ilk do not put as much effort into bussing bums to vote for props as they do for voting for candidates.

[DoughtyOne]

I agree. Look, the state has major problems. It’s political climate is screwed beyond belief. If new management were brought into the GOP here in the state, I believe the whole state would be far better off in ten years.

You can’t have a complete absence of good political values being presented in the state, and expect anything other than what we have taking place now.

Thanks for the comments.