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To: rintense

I despise RINOS, but yes, they are better than Obongo. ANY RINO is better than the Kenyan Marxist. At least RINOS like McCain do usually vote with the Repubs. I don’t consider Snowe and Collins RINOS. They are closet Dems.


2,191 posted on 11/29/2009 6:55:16 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

Isn’t that a contradiction, though? If Snowe and Collins are closet Dems with an (R) behind their name, how are they any better than Obama? Their votes, as well as McCain’s, usually fall with Dems, not Republicans. Sad to say, but I fully expect two of those three to roll and vote for O care.


2,196 posted on 11/29/2009 7:41:43 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: mojitojoe
I don’t consider Snowe and Collins RINOS. They are closet Dems.

When you take into account the term RINO would include 'closet Dems', then they are still RINOS. After all, they're in office on the Republican ticket. As I see it, RINO is not a narrowly defined acronym.

At least RINOS like McCain do usually vote with the Repubs.

Yes, they do. But they often vote 'yes' on Democrat measures, as well as help craft legislation that's contrary to small government, and which can be considered anti-American. the 2006 Amnesty brouhaha is a case in point. McCain, Graham and Mel Martinez were all instrumental in that legislation on the Republican side. The same holds true for healthcare. Look at Graham and how he's willing to work with Obama. And look at McCain's 2008 suspension of his campaign to go to DC and vote FOR the bailout. That act was likely the single most important decision in his losing the election.

Saying RINOs are better than Obama is a blanket statement that can backfire on us. When they get things right, that's fine. But when they get things wrong it's often on things that really matter. And when they're supposed to be on our side, that's inexcusable.

We all have our own ideas of what a RINO is. And not all RINOs vote as a bloc, nor do they necessarily agree on any given item. But they all have one thing in common. They are far more invested with bipartisanship as a method of business, and in maintaining their 'anointed' roles as Senators and Representatives, than they are in representing the people who placed them there.

2,200 posted on 11/29/2009 8:00:21 AM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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