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To: mojitojoe
I don’t consider Snowe and Collins RINOS. They are closet Dems.

When you take into account the term RINO would include 'closet Dems', then they are still RINOS. After all, they're in office on the Republican ticket. As I see it, RINO is not a narrowly defined acronym.

At least RINOS like McCain do usually vote with the Repubs.

Yes, they do. But they often vote 'yes' on Democrat measures, as well as help craft legislation that's contrary to small government, and which can be considered anti-American. the 2006 Amnesty brouhaha is a case in point. McCain, Graham and Mel Martinez were all instrumental in that legislation on the Republican side. The same holds true for healthcare. Look at Graham and how he's willing to work with Obama. And look at McCain's 2008 suspension of his campaign to go to DC and vote FOR the bailout. That act was likely the single most important decision in his losing the election.

Saying RINOs are better than Obama is a blanket statement that can backfire on us. When they get things right, that's fine. But when they get things wrong it's often on things that really matter. And when they're supposed to be on our side, that's inexcusable.

We all have our own ideas of what a RINO is. And not all RINOs vote as a bloc, nor do they necessarily agree on any given item. But they all have one thing in common. They are far more invested with bipartisanship as a method of business, and in maintaining their 'anointed' roles as Senators and Representatives, than they are in representing the people who placed them there.

2,200 posted on 11/29/2009 8:00:21 AM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: bcsco

RINOS are traitors and I agree with all you said. I just don’t think any of the ones you mentioned are Commie bastards like that joke in the WH. I’ll take any of them over him. He is a complete idiot, doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing and he hated this country. He just likes the perks. I really think that why he wanted to win. Perks and play time while he followed orders to sign things he was told to sign.


2,201 posted on 11/29/2009 8:16:27 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: bcsco
Saying RINOs are better than Obama is a blanket statement that can backfire on us. When they get things right, that's fine. But when they get things wrong it's often on things that really matter. And when they're supposed to be on our side, that's inexcusable.

The thing that makes RINOs so dangerous to our cause is that we have to fight them on too many things, which means that we are wasting time, energy, and resources on fights with people that are supposed to be on our side.

The time, energy, and resources we waste fighting RINOs could be better spent fighting liberals who don't hide the fact that they are liberals.
2,202 posted on 11/29/2009 8:35:58 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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