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UFO Chaser: Aliens Involved in Mysterious Calf Mutilations (FoxNews)
FoxNews.com/AP ^ | 11/26/2009

Posted on 11/26/2009 7:11:08 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies

A creepy string of calf mutilations in southern Colorado has a rancher and sheriff's officials mystified.

Four calves were found dead in a pasture just north of the New Mexico state line in recent weeks. The dead calves had their skins peeled back and organs cleared from the rib cage. One calf had its tongue removed.

But rancher Manuel Sanchez has found no signs of human attackers, such as footprints or ATV tracks. And there are no signs of an animal attack by a coyote or mountain lion. Usually predators leave pools of blood or drag marks from carrying away the livestock.

Two officers from the Costilla County Sheriff's Office have investigated the mutilations but say they don't know what's killing the calves.

"There's nothing really to go by," said Sanchez, who's ranched for nearly 50 years. "I can't figure it out."

A spokesman for the sheriff's office told The Pueblo Chieftain that investigators doubt a person butchered the calves because there is no blood at the scene.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: earthfiles; lindamoultenhowe; mutilated; mutilatedcalf; mutilatedcow; mutilatedufo; thetruthisoutthere; ufo; ufos; wheresthebeef
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

They are Europeans and think that calves are the clue to what makes America better. They bicycle in at night to gather specimens, carrying brooms with which to obscure their tracks. Their activity is authorized by the United Nations concordat on ridiculous but expensive employment of peculiar people (UNCREEPP) which is primarily funded from the US contribution to that vast and strange enterprise. UNCREEPP is small, but surprisingly influential, having, for example, surprised America by honoring them with Nobel prizes for Carter, Gore and Obama, to which Americans reacted with mirth, derision, yawns and farts.


41 posted on 11/26/2009 8:51:14 PM PST by mathurine
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To: AUH2O Repub

Actually, in the movie “Signs,” the aliens DID get into the family’s house....they broke the windows on the second floor and moments later the family barricaded themselves in the basement. (Near the end of the movie the camera showed broken windows on the farmhouse and some of the boards were pushed aside). The boards slowed the aliens down a bit but it didn’t stop them from getting inside.

What I wondered about that movie....

(1) Why didn’t the family have firearms and blast away at the aliens instead of hiding

(2) Why didn’t the humans destroy the crop circles when they first figured out the crop circles were for navigation by the ETs and

(3) Why would the aliens go to so much trouble to try to “harvest” two adults and two children from a rural Pennsylvania farm house when they could have gone to even a medium-sized city and had much easier, and more plentiful, pickings?


42 posted on 11/26/2009 9:17:25 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (A Jimmy Carter got us a Ronald Reagan.....a Barack Obama will get us a Sarah Palin)
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To: MichiganConservative
Have any of these ranchers tried putting up some motion-activated, IR cameras when these things start up?

Is there any interesting footage around?

None that I know of, but it's a big, big internet. There just may be some out there.

In the years that I paid attention to this phenomenon, I can recall many ranchers describing eerie lights in their skies in the days surrounding these mutilations. Take that with a grain of salt (like I have), but it's eyewitness testimony, nonetheless.

Unless a rancher was getting hit with this multiple times, I can't see them investing in motion detection and film gear to capture it.

43 posted on 11/26/2009 9:50:49 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Ditter
Small varmints do take internal organs, eyes, a$$holes and can leave the dried hide almost hollow.

Well, that's one possible explanation for the phenomenon, but how do you explain ranchers finding these carcasses within hours of their being mutilated, and finding no blood or animal tracks around them?

These guys know their business, and many of them have described these cattle mutilations as being uniquely odd and inexplicable to them. I've heard the interviews. These ranchers are genuinely perplexed by what they've found.

44 posted on 11/26/2009 9:56:01 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

“My husband called the University of Wyoming and they sent some game biologists up the following day. They were completely baffled, as well.

One interesting thing they did find. There was NO insect life within about 10 feet of the carcass. Usually there would be some maggot infestation by then. There weren’t even ants or beetles around........nor had the coyotes, vultures or other scavengers approached.”

Having read this, I now recall that same observation from a lot of the cattle mutilation reports I read about in the 90’s.

Like your anonymous Freepmailer, I’m baffled by it too, yet not ready to ascribe it to aliens. There’s just no evidence for that, though it’s hard to come to almost any other conclusion.


45 posted on 11/26/2009 10:08:26 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: BenLurkin

Looks like a Dragunov 7362x54 type that Sarah blasted Sasquatch with, long gas tube though. You think maybe the rifle was photoshopped? Just sayin’.


46 posted on 11/26/2009 10:33:24 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Windflier
how do you explain ranchers finding these carcasses within hours of their being mutilated, and finding no blood or animal tracks around them?

Blood quickly pools in the bottom of the corpse. Blood on the ground soaks in and/or is quickly lapped up by scavengers. Often tracks, if the ground is suitable to record them, where overlooked or ignored. Skeptical investigators and vets would often find them when they were claimed to be absent.

I've heard the interviews.

Problem is the information you received was filtered through a community of "mutologists" committed to promoting the idea of a consistent but mysterious "phenomena," and/or through journalists looking for "stories".

BTW, I miss-recalled the details about that investigative report. It was published in 1980, not the early/mid 80's, the research having been done in 1979, and the author was a retired FBI agent, Kenneth Rommel, not a pathologist.

You can read the full report, Operation Animal Mutilation, online. There is also a short descriptive article, Rommel Reports:

Rommel didn't find evidence of a criminal conspiracy, but he did identify some culprits. His chief suspect was the mute rumor mill, aided and abetted by some news outlets and law officers who put unfounded conclusions on the record. Rommel said that he found "a great deal of very creative writing on the part of the media and some law enforcement personnel and I found many statements made by others that were completely unsupported by factual data." His research, he asserted, had "clearly shown that the media has played a very important role in promoting both the livestock phenomenon and the lore surrounding it." Rommel concluded that misleading reports had bred "a classic case of mild hysteria" around the mute issue.

He recently remarked: "The problem is, you've got ranchers who see something they've never seen before or just ignored, and then you have law-enforcement officials getting carried away. You've got Sheriff Num-nutz up in some place where he can't even find his own police car, saying, 'It looks like laser surgery,' and the reporters love quotes like that, so they repeat it. Now, if I were a reporter, I would ask, 'Sheriff, how much do you know about laser surgery?'"


47 posted on 11/27/2009 2:56:46 AM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Windflier
Ooops. Sorry. Here's correct link for the full report.
48 posted on 11/27/2009 2:59:41 AM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Eagles6

Cant slip anything by you can they?


49 posted on 11/27/2009 3:05:04 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: Windflier
OK then it is small aliens who land their space ships in the pasture, put on their little white coats and surgically remove organs from cows to take back to their planet for...........?????

(Gee, that sounds crazy, I can't believe I said that)

OR, it's small varmints, who leave no tracks on hard ground and the blood gets licked up by them or soaks into the ground under the animal.

50 posted on 11/27/2009 6:09:06 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter
OR, it's small varmints, who leave no tracks on hard ground and the blood gets licked up by them or soaks into the ground under the animal.

That's really stretching, but I can understand you trying to make sense of it.

My view on mysteries like this is thus...there are various realities; those which we postulate as rational explanations, and the actual truth.

I can say that based on everything I've read about these incidents that nothing explains it better than intelligent beings collecting tissue samples at random, but I don't really know that to be a fact.

I can also say that nothing explains it better than small critters eating the soft tissues out of fallen cattle, but I don't know that to be fact, either. Much of the evidence argues against that being the case.

I'm comfortable with my own postulated explanation, but I won't argue that it's fact.

51 posted on 11/27/2009 9:21:06 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Stultis

Your explanation could explain one or two of these cattle mutilation stories, but not all of them. I’ve heard audio interviews with experienced ranchers who have testified that what they saw was inexplicable, and did not fit any scenario of predation that they’re familiar with.

One Sheriff describing entry wounds as having “laser-like precision” could have happened in one incident, but not in hundreds. Additionally, that same observation would not have been just dreamed up by hundreds of different investigators, scattered around the country.

If this were an entirely natural phenomenon, there would be very few reports about it, as ranchers and other livestock caretakers would be completely familiar with it, and wouldn’t feel that it was unusual enough to call the authorities.

Your explanation suggests that hundreds, even thousands of ranchers across the country, and over two decades, have been stumbling upon a scenario that they should be totally familiar with, but have been mistaking it for something strange and inexplicable. That explanation defies all logic.

Unlike you, I’m not advocating for a concrete explanation. I don’t know what the truth is. What I do know, is what the reports testify to, and that is that something odd is going on here.

It’s sort of like Obama’s birth certificate. Every bit of evidence points to him being something other than what he claims. There is so much evidence, that many of us are dead certain that he’s some sort of illegal Manchurian Candidate. But, how do you prove it without the documentation?

Same problem here.


52 posted on 11/27/2009 9:55:01 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

>>>”That’s really stretching it but I can understand you trying to make sense of it”>>>

I don’t have to “try” to make sense of it. Our family has owned a cattle ranch for over 50 years and I have seen it with my own eyes. If you want to continue to wallow in the “mystery” of it, fine, enjoy yourself. Better yet, buy a ranch, put up cameras and just wait.


53 posted on 11/27/2009 10:13:30 AM PST by Ditter
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

54 posted on 11/27/2009 10:13:43 AM PST by lonevoice (If Fox News is the only outlet reporting it, did it really happen?)
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To: DainBramage

I just look stupid on purpose, then people don’t expect much from you and they leave you alone.


55 posted on 11/27/2009 10:27:21 AM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Thank you for this thread.

More Info Here:

http://blessedistruth.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/malacun-wawapa/#comment-420


56 posted on 11/27/2009 10:57:44 AM PST by rosettasister
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To: SonOfDarkSkies; Quix

Got tinfoil?


57 posted on 11/27/2009 3:47:42 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: Windflier

Much of the evidence argues against that being the case.

###########

Actually, I’d say all the evidence is against predators being involved.

1. NO predator type tears, bites, teeth marks.
2. NO predator tracks in snow, mud, etc. NO TRACKS of any kind to or from the carcass.
3. PREDATORS give such carcasses a very wide berth for at least many months, if not years.
4. In most to all cases, not even insects bother the carcasses for a long time.
5. The whole predator postulation is IN SPITE OF the evidence and is often offered by officials who have nothing ‘better’ to offer and who refuse to get into the UFO thing for one reason or another.


58 posted on 11/27/2009 4:58:53 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Ditter

WRONG.

1. NO TRACKS IN FRESH FALLEN SNOW.
2. NO TRACKS IN MUD.
3. NO TRACKS IN SANDY SOIL.
4. NO SIGNS OF ANY KIND ON THE FLESH OF A PREDATOR’S BEING ANYWHERE NEAR THE FLESH.
5. One cow was clearly dropped into a muddy boggy area of the pasture from AT LEAST 300 feet. I suppose you think coyotes with VERY BIG MUSCLES were playing a rousing traditional game of TOSS THE COW VERY HIGH???

If you are going to be derisive, AT LEAST TRY to have your facts straight. It leaves you looking less foolish . . . or less ignorant.

I have offered a number of postulated reasons for the tissue samples. There is no clear consensus in the literature.


59 posted on 11/27/2009 5:03:16 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Stultis

Actually, some very scientific investigations have asserted that the ‘laser surgical line’ doesn’t even tend to dissect cell walls but somehow manages to cut between the cells. And, the laser aspect of the cuts was the case well before we had anything close to allowing us to do such things.


60 posted on 11/27/2009 5:06:08 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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