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Obama in a Bind Over Country of Birth
News Blaze ^ | November 25, 2009 | Alan Gray

Posted on 11/25/2009 6:15:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: charlie72

Everything you wanted to know about natural born vs citizen

http://www.thebirthers.org/misc/logic.htm


101 posted on 11/25/2009 8:37:37 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: al baby; shibumi
Mark my words, I think he is gonna crack up before this is over and be led from the white house by men in lab coats and be taken to trembling hills for the remaider of his useless and pathetic life


102 posted on 11/25/2009 8:37:56 PM PST by Semper Mark (Vegetables are what food eats.)
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie

Saab baby READ THIS

Everything you wanted to know about natural born vs citizen

http://www.thebirthers.org/misc/logic.htm


103 posted on 11/25/2009 8:40:44 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d settle for the goof coming from the normal Christian side of Kenya at this point...


104 posted on 11/25/2009 8:44:04 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: Jim 0216

How about an American Boris Godunov?


105 posted on 11/25/2009 8:44:50 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie; ROCKLOBSTER
It's a point that's held up and nothing you or anyone else has said in response refutes it.

Actually your first premise was immediately destroyed in post #74 by ROCKLOBSTER.

106 posted on 11/25/2009 8:46:14 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: MikefromOhio

Nope don’t agree on that one sorry


107 posted on 11/25/2009 8:48:05 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: norge
I too have never seen or heard of such a statement. I was one who did hear the brief exchange with Keyes during the Illinois senate campaign where Keyes said something close to “...and you can never run for president” and Obama said “...so what?” “I have no interest in running for president.”

It is all moot anyway because Obama told us he was born a dual citizen because of his father's British citizenship. That made him ineligible and every senator knew it, having just signed Senate Res. 511 supposedly justifying McCain's qualifications because “both of his parents were citizens.” The fix was in an Obama had the confidence to announce his ineligibilty, because the law firm guiding him was the same one defending McCain, Kendall and Ellis. They both had a natural born citizenship problem keeping both parties silent.

If our legal system were still rooted in our Constitution, and our legislators bound by oaths, Obama wouldn't be president. The sad complicity of senior military, who also signed an oath is now coming to light. Senior military make no secret of the priority of their respect for Sharia over respect for The Constitution. I know there are officers who hate what is happening, but field grade desk jockeys have families to feed too. When the food riots come, they will still have a job - protecting the leadership from the citizens.

I have urged my nephews, one not to re-up, and two others not to enlist. They would be joining a military which has been ordered not to provide cover, and not to shoot until after incoming has been verified, and until after permission has been granted by headquarters. Men should stay near to protect their families because we are now faced with “Enemies foreign and domestic,” with the emphasis on “domestic.”

108 posted on 11/25/2009 8:49:55 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: DesertRhino
I think you nailed it.

lol My fictional account derived from a plausible scenario given the circumstance of a unwed preggo teenage girl 2600 miles from home. I'd go see mom.

109 posted on 11/25/2009 8:51:27 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: roaddog727
” Your papers please, Mr. Zero...
I agree with Al. It seems like the old O, from 4 months ago- always looking for the cameras, going on every show that could produce 2 or 3 thousand eye-balls, shooting off his yapper...The”old” O has been replaced by this bumbling, golf hungry, ex-hoop guy....Like he went from 35 to 76 years of age in a milasecond...I don’t think he likes ruling as much as he liked campaigning...This Leadership thing is alien,,,Just like O...
110 posted on 11/25/2009 8:53:27 PM PST by Eagletest
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie
Again, not true, per 14th amendment. Also, see "anchor babies."

Since you offered Wikipedia this is from the page you supplied a URL to.

There is dispute regarding whether the foreign-born children of U.S. citizens are natural born citizens.[26] One view interprets the "natural born Citizen" clause as meaning that a person either is born in the United States or is a naturalized citizen.[27][not in citation given] According to this view, in order to be a "natural born citizen," a person must be born in the United States, or possibly an incorporated territory; otherwise, they are a citizen "by law" and are therefore a "statutory citizen," (not necessarily, however, a naturalized citizen, which implies a pre-existing foreign citizenship).[26] Another view holds that the clause only requires that a president be a citizen at the time of birth, whether under the Fourteenth Amendment or under federal law.[28]

Seems like you don't even read your own cited sources.

111 posted on 11/25/2009 8:57:01 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: norge

I am sure the links to several articles from when he ran for senate were posted here.

Here is one

http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

Then you might want to read these, to see all of the documents he is hiding.

http://www.obamanotqualified.com/

http://theobamafile.com/ObamaEducation.htm#PreSchool

I am sure you will find the above two very enlightening.


112 posted on 11/25/2009 8:59:23 PM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie

You’re wrong.

Anchor-babies have DUAL citizenship, and their allegiance therefore, is split. They are not eligible to be President, just like Obama.


113 posted on 11/25/2009 9:04:36 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...

He forgot the salient fact of the citizenship status of his father, among other things, but it’s good that the questions aren’t stopping. The truth *will* come out .. eventually. Just hope and pray it comes in time to save our country and someone who knows the truth finds the courage to come forward.


114 posted on 11/25/2009 9:06:44 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie

Anyone born here appears to be a Citizen, but not Natural Born.


115 posted on 11/25/2009 9:08:10 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: norge

KENYAN BORN OBAMA ALL SET FOR SENATE former article:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

AllAfrica.com — “Kampala — Ugandans have formed a group to mobilise support for Kenyan-born Senator...”
http://allafrica.com/stories/200802180051.html

SECURITY CONCERNS FOR TOURISM AS SENATOR OBAMA JETS INTO KENYA
As Kenyan born US Senator Barack Obama…(13th headline down)
http://www.africa-ata.org/ug_newsletter.htm

NPR …STORIES OUT OF AFRICA:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95550177

THE NIGERIAN OBSERVER:
http://oilforimmigration.org/images/screencapt3.jpg

THE GHANAIAN TIMES:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll1/BecJul/Go_Obama_Ghanaian_Times2.jpg?t=1255731958


116 posted on 11/25/2009 9:08:59 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: STARWISE
Unfortunately, Obama dug the hole himself, and like a hole created when a water main leaks and then bursts, the hole is expanding day by day and as it does, the fallout is increasing.

What's that saying...you can't dig yourself out of a hole?

117 posted on 11/25/2009 9:11:31 PM PST by azishot
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To: al baby

I’m on the same page. He’s going to have a nervous breakdown. Can’t be too soon.


118 posted on 11/25/2009 9:15:58 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie

If your great grandmother became a citizen before your grandmother was born (which you claim was prior to her marriage)..than your grandmother was a natural born citizen. I am assuming your great grandmothers husband was a citzen.

I am of Italian decent and dabble in genealogy. For years, on genealogy forums, some people, for whatever reason they have, want to apply for duel citizenship, to Italy.

You can only get it, if you one of your ancestors, managed to be not naturalized. I, myself cant get it.

On my mothers side, the immigrating ancestor was her parents. My grandfather was naturalized, which made his wife naturalized (the law during that particular time period). He renounced his Italian citizenship before I was born.

On my fathers side..he was born in italy, but was naturalized before he got married. Therefore, people on both my maternal and paternal sides..were citizens, renouncing the king of Italy..before I was born. I cannot, if I wanted to..get a duel citizenship. (Um..I would never do that anyway).

I am going to guess..this is how it also works here...so since your Ggrandmother became a citizen..if her husband was one..this would make your father a natural born citizen, since this took place before well before his birth.


119 posted on 11/25/2009 9:18:49 PM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: ClearCase_guy

Ping for reference ...


120 posted on 11/25/2009 9:19:19 PM PST by ArmyTeach ( Speak the truth, right the wrong, and follow the King.)
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