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A Joke Too Far
Townhall.com ^ | November 22, 2009 | David R. Stokes

Posted on 11/22/2009 7:50:01 AM PST by Kaslin

A tasteless joke – one that saw earlier popularity during the administrations of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush – has resurfaced across America.  It is being told in whispers, emails, and even bumper stickers.  During Mr. Clinton’s administration it even found its way into some Sunday church bulletins.  And it is really beneath contempt in its lack of respect for the president, the presidency, not to mention the Bible itself.

It goes something like this: “Pray for President Obama.  Psalm 109:8.” 

At first glance it appears innocuous, even pious.  But when time is taken to look up the reference, well, then it’s chortle, chortle time for buffoons:

“Let his days be few, and let another take his office.” – Psalm 109:8 (NKJV) 

And the verse following continues the thought: 

 “Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.” – Psalm 109:9 (NJKV) 

Of course, the point of the joke is to show disaffection with President Obama.  But the real result is to use scripture in a twisted way and to find somehow funny the idea that our president should, well, come to an ignominious end leaving his family to grieve.  

Funny stuff.  Real Jackie Gleason belly laugh stuff: Har har hardy har har.

It should be clear to decent, reasonable, reflective, and compassionate people that some things simply aren’t funny.  One just has to look back at what happened 46 years ago this weekend to see that.  I have no clue if that same joke was around in the days of the Kennedy administration, but I know that the feelings of too-casual contempt it reveals were very much around. 

I am a conservative when it comes to politics - a conservative with strong libertarian leanings.  I am no fan of much of the political agenda of President Obama and his administration.  Sometimes I get annoyed.  Occasionally (okay, more than occasionally) I talk back to the T.V. when I hear or see something that, to me, does not pass the test of constitutionality or common sense. 

I would probably only vote for Mr. Obama’s reelection if the choice was between him and, say, Harry Reid – or Boss Tweed.   I very much believe that the president and his advisors have a socialist bent and that what they are trying to accomplish through Health-Care Reform and Cap-and-Trade machinations amounts to the kind of change Americans really didn’t envision when he was elected last year.  

But it needs to be said that a president can be opposed and criticized - even in an animated way - without resorting to the kind of meanness that crosses the line of civility.  

I have no problem with partisanship – even a little fiery rhetoric here and there.  America is better when our politics are feisty.   But, come on – using the Bible to make a joke about the man dying before his term is up?  

Seriously?

Think back.  Remember John “John-John” Kennedy Jr. saluting his daddy’s casket on that cold November Monday in 1963?   Is there anything funny about that?  Nope, it was all just very sad.  And it bears noting that Mr. Kennedy evoked opinions and opposition from conservative Americans in much the same way Mr. Obama does now. 

On the last morning of his life, JFK woke up in the Presidential Suite of the Hotel Texas in downtown Fort Worth, Texas.  As he made his way down to the facility’s Crystal Ballroom to speak to a Chamber of Commerce breakfast gathering of about 2,000 people, he encountered a maid by the name of Jan White, who asked him to sign her newspaper.  He did – probably the last autograph of his life – writing his name near his picture on the front page of that day’s Dallas Morning News.  The headline on November 22, 1963 was: “Storm of Political Controversy Swirls Around Kennedy On Visit.” 

The next morning that same paper bore the message: “Kennedy Slain On Dallas Street.” 

People mourned.  Americans who had not voted for Mr. Kennedy – and never would have – were deeply impacted by the violent tragedy.  And, in fact, his days were made few, and another was allowed to take his office.  His wife also became a widow and his children were suddenly fatherless. 

I’m sorry, but there is nothing funny about that.  Nor is there anything funny about using a passage of scripture as a punch line, one that finds sadistic humor in such depraved darkness as to be at all amused at the potential demise of a national leader.

Of course, I recognize that when George W. Bush was in office, the same things were circulated about him by a few on the other side of the political spectrum.   But some things are simply not funny.  It was wrong when liberals did it – and it is wrong for conservatives to do it.

Shortly before November 22, 1963 - when I was about seven years old – I came home from school one day armed with a joke about President Kennedy.   I cannot for the life of me remember the punch line - or the straight line for that matter.   But I do remember the moment I decided to let ‘er rip at the dinner table that night.   I was sure that I was on safe ground, after all, my parents were Nixon people in 1960 (later Goldwater people in 1964, then back to RN again in ’68) and not big fans of Mr. Kennedy.  I know I had heard my dad criticize the president for this or that, though never in a mean way.  So I thought he would just love my hilarious joke.

I told it with all the skills of a 2nd grade class clown.  Then I waited for the howls of laughter from my parents.   And I waited.  Then after a moment or two – and I can still see and hear this in my mind – came a powerful rebuke from the head of the table, ending with the unambiguous: “Son, don’t ever talk about the President of the United States like that!”

Tough room.

I learned something about respect that day.  It’s something I think about now and again when things heat up politically and I find myself invariably frustrated with politics du jour.  And though I sometimes fly admittedly close to the flame of the kind of disrespect that crosses the line between honest disagreement and just plain malice, I am never comfortable with that kind of indignation – righteous or otherwise. 

Anger is toxic, often subtly so.  Certainly there are times when animosity can give way to constructive change.  But while such antipathy can occasionally be the catalyst for ultimate good, it must never be the default fuel.  It is ferociously destructive.

By the way, the use of Psalm 109:8 as a joke applied to President Obama is not only a beneath-contempt expression of ugliness, it is also a profoundly ignorant use of the Bible.   For when you read further in the good book, all the way through the gospels and into The Acts of the Apostles, you find Simon Peter, the recently redeemed Jesus-denier, quoting that very passage in reference to another Apostle who did something abhorrent – Judas Iscariot.

Peter applied it as an epitaph for Christ’s infamous betrayer, though he must have done so with the humility to think, “there but for the grace of God go I.”

All praying people should fervently pray for President Obama and all those in authority – and not tongue-in-cheek petitions.   As yet another Apostle, this one named Paul wrote:

“I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone, for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.” – I Timothy 2:1-2 (NIV)


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To: Kaslin

Did I miss something?

Did the bumper sticker say 109:9?

It said Psalm 109:8.

These jokers are trying to ‘stretch’ the meaning of the line to include the entire thing.

Typical liberal (and RINO) spin!


21 posted on 11/22/2009 8:22:17 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Yorlik803

Only an jerk would want to see Obama killed in office.

According to this prayer, there’s nothing about him being killed, just that God would limit his life.


22 posted on 11/22/2009 8:22:35 AM PST by freedomfiter2
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23 posted on 11/22/2009 8:22:57 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: MHGinTN
"But it needs to be said that a president can be opposed and criticized - even in an animated way - without resorting to the kind of meanness that crosses the line of civility."

Right. Tell that to the Dems. I say fight fire with nuclear weapons instead. Keep the heat on Obama and his henchmen. Keep those "Obama is a Muslim" chain emails going, keep those Larry Sinclair stories alive. Any and everything negative about these people, be it true or false, must be spread far and wide until Obama, Reid, Frank and Pelosi are the most despised people in America. I don't care how it's done at this point, it just needs to be done, or America is toast.

24 posted on 11/22/2009 8:23:27 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo
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To: Kaslin

While I think an assassination would be the worst possible fate for America, I’m otherwise comfortable with his demise, either physical or political.

As to his daughters being fatherless? Yeah. Bad.

OTOH, I can easily see him marrying them off to a Saudi prince as a symbol of America’s utter and final submission to islam.

The Presidential children are plenty old enough, after all, mohammed married a 6 year old.

Better to be an orphan than a muslim sex slave.


25 posted on 11/22/2009 8:23:53 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 305 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Kaslin

Complete garbage. The “joke” is Psalms 10:8. The author of this bilge intentionally conflates that with 10:9 and then spends the entire piece attacking that strawman.

Just typical SRM lefthink and spin...


26 posted on 11/22/2009 8:24:25 AM PST by piytar (Go Away RNC, Steele, Graham, and the rest of the lib-loser GOP. WE'RE TAKING OUR PARTY BACK!)
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To: Kaslin

I’m sick to death of pious lecturing about peoples attitudes toward Obama, and his henchmen. The worst invective toward that boogerflinging marxist nitwit and his criminal enterprises doesn’t even come close to what is daily hurled against George Bush, Sarah Palin or just about any conservative. They can describe themselves as ‘open-minded conservatives or libertarians all they want, but if they find anything palatable about the BO nightmare or the human trash who put him in office they’re morons.


27 posted on 11/22/2009 8:26:51 AM PST by VR-21 (Down to the stones, where old ghosts play.)
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To: Rocco DiPippo

If you think you can successfully fight a “civilized” war against uncivilized leftist swine, you’re out of your mind. You fight to win, or don’t bother fighting.


28 posted on 11/22/2009 8:28:45 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo
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To: Shimmer1

I wish I understood what has happened to Franky.


29 posted on 11/22/2009 8:29:06 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal is in Iraq.)
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To: piytar

109:8 and 109:9, not 10:8 and 10:9. Ooops, need more coffee...


30 posted on 11/22/2009 8:30:00 AM PST by piytar (Go Away RNC, Steele, Graham, and the rest of the lib-loser GOP. WE'RE TAKING OUR PARTY BACK!)
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To: Kaslin
During the whole Whitewater mess, someone said to me, "Can you believe that this guy will someday be on a stamp? He shouldn't be allowed on a postage stamp."

I quietly replied something like, "I can't wait for the day that he's on a postage stamp."

He looked at me like I was some sort of traitor, but he didn't get my subtle reference. (Actually, most people I repeated that to didn't either. They all knew that I didn't like Clinton and they didn't know why I'd want him on a stamp other than I'm a Conservative and a Traditionalist and That's How Things Are Done, or something like that.)

31 posted on 11/22/2009 8:30:15 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Barak Hussein Obama is leading the gentile nations against Israel with the Evil One at his side.

That seems to be an accurate discription of what is happening now.

32 posted on 11/22/2009 8:30:20 AM PST by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: Kaslin
some things simply aren’t funny.

It isn't intended to be funny.

It is the serious desire that his destruction will stop.

33 posted on 11/22/2009 8:31:24 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
The Psalm describes the world leader who will have the Evil One by his side as they come against Israel in the latter days.

If David R. Stokes is claiming that Barak Hussein Obama is leading the gentile nations against Israel with the Evil One at his side. That is for Mr. Stokes to state openly

I won't claim it. (Not my place) BUT I have observed that

everything 0bama has done has:

A. weakened America
B. strengthened islam
C. attacked Israel

...or some combination of the above.


34 posted on 11/22/2009 8:31:30 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 305 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Kaslin

Respect for the office of the president. You mean the Oval Office, where Billy BJ got serviced? Unlike Obama, Americans don’t bow down to kings. Besides, Obama is not a legitimate president. He’s not even a legitimate American. He’s a totalitarian marxist tyrant, a baby butcher, and a psychopath narcissist. Of course it would be a horrible thing if someone dropped a piano on his head, accidentally, I mean, of course. I wouldn’t celebrate. I love the piano.


35 posted on 11/22/2009 8:32:20 AM PST by gorilla_warrior (Metrosexual hairless RINOs for hopey-changey bipartisan-ness)
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To: Kaslin

If you tell a cabbie to take you to 109th St and 8th Ave and he takes you to 109th st and 10th Ave is that the same?
If your mortage is due on the 8th can you just decide that you will pay it on the 13th?
If you are to clock in to work at 8 is it ok to come in at 11?
If the recipe calls for 8 0z of something do you regulary use 15?
What part of 8 is so difficult to understand?


36 posted on 11/22/2009 8:32:20 AM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Kaslin

The author is wrong, IMO. The bumper sticker clearly identifies verse 8 as the SOLE scripture reference, not berse 9.

This is merely another instance of conservatives being blamed for what they DID NOT say.


37 posted on 11/22/2009 8:33:44 AM PST by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: Kaslin

Sorry, I’m pass civility

Let’ just admit that it’s not if, but when for the upcoming revolution.

And I still volunteer to be switchman for the guillotine.


38 posted on 11/22/2009 8:34:57 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Kaslin

“Is there anything funny about that?”

It’s not a joke. The verse is an earnest request of the Lord - then, and now. A foreign enemy has taken over leadership of our country.

JFK was a legitimate president. BHO is not.

Verse 9 is a consequence of his own choices & actions, not a happy desire born of simple malice.


39 posted on 11/22/2009 8:35:05 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End the coup!)
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To: doberville
... the author has scant understanding of human nature and its reaction to extreme frustration...

You thinhe's a rgular forum member here then?

40 posted on 11/22/2009 8:35:27 AM PST by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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