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Live Thread: Senate Debate and Cloture Vote on Motion to Proceed to Debate ObamaCare
Saturday, November 21, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 11/21/2009 9:43:50 AM PST by kristinn

C-SPAN 2 is carrying the Senate floor debate live this afternoon.

The Democrats control the floor right now. Earlier, Republican Senators Judd Gregg, Kit Bond, Jeff Sessions and David Vitter gave good speeches and dialogues on the budget-busting effects of ObamaCare.

Maria Cantwell is speaking now. Mary Landrieu is excpected to speak shortly.

The cloture vote is scheduled for 8 p.m. EST tonight.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; cloture; deathpanels; healthcare; hillarycare; obamacare; obamao; romneycare; socializedmedicine; supermajority
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To: Carley

It already is. Canadians, Europeans, Americans are flocking there. Excellent, affordable health care too. Many Americans fly down there for health care reasons. It’s wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper than here and it’s excellent.


581 posted on 11/21/2009 10:04:41 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Carley

It already is. Canadians, Europeans, Americans are flocking there. Excellent, affordable health care too. Many Americans fly down there for health care reasons. It’s wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper than here and it’s excellent.


582 posted on 11/21/2009 10:05:46 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Sounds good to me. There is no way I am paying a dime of taxes or in any way shape or form complying with this bill if it passes. I mean that. I have drawn the line in the sand, as have they. If I have to leave here, so be it. Whatever it takes, I am prepared. I will not feed this monster.


583 posted on 11/21/2009 10:07:43 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Good post , stay in touch my friend.
I certainly don’t encourage the violent tactics of the Soviet left. I was thinking more of the American Left. Strikes , boycotts , sit ins , well funded ads , recruitment . The Health Care Bill is illegal and unconstitutional. The Federal government has NO POWER to force people to buy anything nor does it have any business being involved in it at all ( or many other things it has NO AUTHORITY to do )
We need a central office , we need to have a serious campaign to contact EVERY conservative group and website and have them put away petty differences and favorite issues . We need a gathering of the tribes so to speak in order to get MASSIVE numbers. If I could get %25 of Freepers to write 2 letters each to different organizations we could do wonders with numbers.Stay Close my friend...


584 posted on 11/21/2009 10:11:42 PM PST by sonic109 (and...what are we going to do about it ? NOTHING)
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To: sonic109

I’m ready and willing. I have family near DC. I can go and stay a month and be in DC every single day. Bottle neck it, shut it down, hundreds of thousands, whatever it takes. Make them see the whites of our eyes every single day. Sometimes you have to lose a little to not lose it all. Time to move outside the comfort zone of phone calls, emails and faxes. It’s not working.


585 posted on 11/21/2009 10:11:46 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Baynative

Thank you, excellent, informative post. I’m emailing that to everyone on my email list.


586 posted on 11/21/2009 10:13:13 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: StarFan

here isn’t enough pork to pay off the remaining 99 Mary Landrieu’s
They have TRILLIONS of OUR money to spend plus Soros’ billions on top of it .
Term limits..1 4 years term and you are out out out..None paying position by the way .


587 posted on 11/21/2009 10:15:28 PM PST by sonic109 (and...what are we going to do about it ? NOTHING)
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To: Carley

I know 4 people that have purchased homes there this year and several others that have gone to check it out and love it.


588 posted on 11/21/2009 10:26:33 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: pollywog

She is not electable my friend , sorry.I like her but she has a long way to get to be in that position. Besides I couldn’t take the voice for 4 years anyway .


589 posted on 11/21/2009 10:28:31 PM PST by sonic109 (and...what are we going to do about it ? NOTHING)
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To: usconservative

The phone calls, faxes, emails, letters are not working. SEIU and ACORN are busy beavers. I will do everything I can, I can’t do it alone. If others choose to wait until it’s too late, it’s not fair to ask anyone to stay and live like a slave. I just won’t do it. I love my country, but I refuse to live like that.


590 posted on 11/21/2009 10:29:26 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Diamond

Beckel may not realize that many of the elderly dying off are among the most loyal Democrats and have been for sixty years. They were children under FDR and HST.


591 posted on 11/21/2009 10:33:20 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: sonic109

Sarah is nice looking, but women won’t vote for nice looking competitors. They will stick with their Obama.


592 posted on 11/21/2009 10:34:21 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: ReneeLynn

Bribery, using our tax dollars buy her vote. Like the old saying “ follow the dollar” and they get away with it every
time and the system becomes more and more corrupt. Some of them good old southern boys will make sure that she will be
getting her share when the money will be handed out. Now
we understand why politicians spend millions to get a job that pays a $125.000 salary. Greed and power ! To hell with the people, just give ME the money !!!! The media don’t even consider pressing the matter on behalf of the people. So what’s new ??


593 posted on 11/21/2009 11:50:58 PM PST by Macgedos
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To: nutmeg

Thanx for the nutshell version. Sometimes I need Cliff Notes with this stuff!


594 posted on 11/22/2009 5:54:31 AM PST by homegroan (Proud to be a Palinite!)
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To: Prince of Space

RE: “I’m planning on jail, myself. Think about it:

Three meals a day, don’t have to work, free healthcare for 1 to 5 years, and don’t have to pay taxes the entire time!

I’m almost looking forward to spending my golden retirement years in the slammer. It’ll pry beat being on the outside and watching my country being destroyed (and paying for it too)!”

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Agree — and So. Cal. a/c costs are horrid — mine is broken now and need new — maybe I’ll ask to be put on top of list for incarceration. Lots of reading time there I believe — I am getting behind on that.

Let’s not forget the guy in CA who asked to be put on death row. He found out you get an assured 20 years of the best accommodations in the CA prison system. By the time he’d be killed, he’d be old.

I think I choose jail too —


596 posted on 11/22/2009 11:45:31 AM PST by CaliforniaCon
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To: nutmeg

RE: “As I said on another thread, the vast majority of people (non-FReepers) whom I meet on a daily basis here in the northeast don’t give a damn about politics, nor even know what’s going on. Heck, most of ‘em don’t even know who their Congressman is, or even how the US Congress works. These sheeple care more about who wins Dancing with the Stars, Survivor, American Idol and/or The Biggest Loser.

But they managed to come out in droves a year ago to vote in the American Idol celebrity Marxist president, and these “voters” haven’t been seen since. And here we are, left with the consequences.

America is SO screwed”

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Agree — here in L.A., however, those who DO know about what’s going on in large part don’t care as they support it and Obozo. They are in the minority who put him in the WH, though. Yes, most of the so-called voters were know-nothing dopes who voted for the first ‘black’ rock star president. Thanks for nothing — in fact, way worse than nothing!


597 posted on 11/22/2009 11:54:40 AM PST by CaliforniaCon
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To: sonic109

RE: “See ,this is what we need to do .
But we won’t. we need to assign specific targets to groups. Now , take this 2 bit slut from Louisiana. If we could get lets say 4 thousand people in LA , people like us , to take turns harrassing the shit out of her day and night( no violence , nothing illegibly ) . Conservative lawtyers going through every word she ever said , every dollar she ever made. Go through her damn garbage if necessary . Rent a store near her office and hire people to research her entire life. Make sure she see it . Hire people to put up posters on every inch of wall she has to pass every day . And when they are torn down do it again. Have 3ooo people try to cram the hallway going to her office. Do it until we can have her arrested for something she’s done wrong , even if it was 30 years ago . Make her hate even getting up in the morning. Whrite every slanderous article you can . Collect a million dollars to use for a 24 hour a day watch on her. Make her pay and make her pay BIG TIME for stabbing the American public in the back. We need to employ the methods of the far left.

Do this to 10 or 12 politicians and after awhile they won’t be so easily swayed to go against us. Make there be concequences to giving the PEOPLE the finger.”

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This is what the left did to Palin and probably the primary reason she left her Gov. post in AK. I agree with you that she is not likely our savior but she is doing good work and did not deserve to be harassed as she was in AK. We need to turn the tables, indeed. They cost her a lot of personal funds defending herself; why can we return the favor to ‘their’ side?


598 posted on 11/22/2009 12:00:07 PM PST by CaliforniaCon
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To: CaliforniaCon

Correction to last sentence in above post: “Why CAN’T we return the favor.....etc.”

Sorry, can’t type today.


599 posted on 11/22/2009 12:03:00 PM PST by CaliforniaCon
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To: Cboldt

Thanks! Learn something new every day!


600 posted on 11/22/2009 12:28:12 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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