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Keep this quiet also, but

this is the person who is putting in FOI requests for all emails Keith and Tim

have written and received re Ch 6 of AR4. We think we’ve found a way

around this.

I can’t wait for the Wengen review to come out with the Appendix showing what

that 1990 IPCC Figure was really based on.

The Garnaut review appears to be an Australian version of the Stern Report.

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Cheers

Phil

Prof. Phil Jones

Phil,

It is distressing to read that American Stinker item. But Keith

does seem to have got himself into a mess. As I pointed out in

emails, Yamal is insignificant. And you say that (contrary to

what M&M say) Yamal is *not* used in MBH, etc. So these facts

alone are enough to shoot down M&M is a few sentences (which

surely is the only way to go — complex and wordy responses

will be counter productive).

But, more generally, (even if it *is* irrelevant) how does Keith

explain the McIntyre plot that compares Yamal-12 with Yamal-all? And

how does he explain the apparent “selection” of the less well-replicated

chronology rather that the later (better replicated) chronology?

Of course, I don’t know how often Yamal-12 has really been used in

recent, post-1995, work. I suspect from what you say it is much less

often that M&M say — but where did they get their information? I

presume they went thru papers to see if Yamal was cited, a pretty foolproof method if

you ask me. Perhaps these things can be explained clearly and concisely — but I am not

sure Keith is able to do this

as he is too close to the issue and probably quite pissed of.

And the issue of with-holding data is still a hot potato, one that

affects both you and Keith (and Mann). Yes, there are reasons — but

many *good* scientists appear to be unsympathetic to these. The

trouble here is that with-holding data looks like hiding something,

and hiding means (in some eyes) that it is bogus science that is

being hidden.

I think Keith needs to be very, very careful in how he handles this.

I’d be willing to check over anything he puts together.

Tom.