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Posted on 11/20/2009 5:35:11 AM PST by Red Badger
I work with scientists and engineers every day. Have my own Physics degree, too. I don’t see anything from a science impact in climate change that makes sense with the exception of solar related warming.
That being said - it would not suprise me to find they have no intent to deceive. Many of the science/engineering types become fixated on particular things. I see all the time where an engineer will argue and argue a point that is clearly wrong. They are so focused on these items that they get tunnel vision and literally cannot perceive the error.
Because it is such a strong response, I think it may actually be instinctual to prevent damage to the ego.
And I’m big enough to admit that I do it a lot of times as well. Usually someone finally pops me upside the head and I go “ah sh*t; where did that come from” or “geez, how did I miss that”.
I think a lot of these people really do believe what they are saying. However, I also believe that there are a lot of people that are just using it to pursue thier own agenda - whether for grants, power, fame, etc.
NOT!
Based on the number of threads on FR pertaining to this subject, its dominance on solarcycle24.com and other blogs, I don't think this is going to be wished away by the Gore loving media.
Lot's of new info coming out every hour by folks who are gleaning it for indications of both scientific and monetary fraud. This is hugh and series!
NOT!
Based on the number of threads on FR pertaining to this subject, its dominance on solarcycle24.com and other blogs, I don't think this is going to be wished away by the Gore loving media.
Lot's of new info coming out every hour by folks who are gleaning it for indications of both scientific and monetary fraud. This is hugh and series!
Well, if this snip is genuine it goes a long way towards explaining the baser motives:
http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/11/hacked-hadley-cru-foi2009-files.html
Don’t disagree - as I mentioned some just have their own damn agenda. The rest are just blinded by their myopia (sic).
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It is damning enough, and pretty obvious. The amount of bias exercised by supposed "peers" in research is an open secret among scientists. Usually the bias is directed at pure self promotion - if he cites me, I approve, else I disapprove - that sort of thing. Here the interest is much more ideological and they think of themselves as fighting righteously against political enemies in the name of science. But in fact they are suppressing anything that hurts their arguments, in Orwellian fashion, instead of just trusting their arguments and airing every point of view.
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