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The Rationing Commission Meet the unelected body that will dictate future medical decisions.
The Wall Street Journal ^ | NOVEMBER 15, 2009

Posted on 11/15/2009 7:10:57 PM PST by Delacon

As usual, the most dangerous parts of ObamaCare aren't receiving the scrutiny they deserve—and one of the least examined is a new commission to tell Congress how to control health spending. Democrats are quietly attempting to impose a "global budget" on Medicare, with radical implications for U.S. medicine.

Like most of Europe, the various health bills stipulate that Congress will arbitrarily decide how much to spend on health care for seniors every year—and then invest an unelected board with extraordinary powers to dictate what is covered and how it will be paid for. White House budget director Peter Orszag calls this Medicare commission "critical to our fiscal future" and "one of the most potent reforms."

[                    oj_rove0521                ] AP

On that last score, he's right. Prominent health economist Alain Enthoven has likened a global budget to "bombing from 35,000 feet, where you don't see the faces of the people you kill."

As envisioned by the Senate Finance Committee, the commission—all 15 members appointed by the President—would have to meet certain budget targets each year. Starting in 2015, Medicare could not grow more rapidly on a per capita basis than by a measure of inflation. After 2019, it could only grow at the same rate as GDP, plus one percentage point.

The theory is to let technocrats set Medicare payments free from political pressure, as with the military base closing commissions. But that process presented recommendations to Congress for an up-or-down vote. Here, the commission's decisions would go into effect automatically if Congress couldn't agree within six months on different cuts that met the same target...


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; healthcare; medicare; obamacare; rationing; socializedmedicinc; socializedmedicine; universalhealthcare
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Prominent health economist Alain Enthoven has likened a global budget to "bombing from 35,000 feet, where you don't see the faces of the people you kill."
 
Listen up, there will be NO death panels ya paranoid conservatives! That supposes myriad committees of people that will decide if indiviguals live or die on a case by case basis where they'd have the power but would have to take indivigual circumstances into consideration. As this article tells it, no namby pamby panels. Nope, just centralize the power into one unelected body that can tighten the financial purse strings if your living costs too much. If you die in the process, so be it.  

1 posted on 11/15/2009 7:10:59 PM PST by Delacon
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2 posted on 11/15/2009 7:13:05 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge

bump


3 posted on 11/15/2009 7:14:16 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: Delacon
Direct quote from the SEIU bylaws.

We must organize unorganized Healthcare workers, extending to them the gains of unionism while securing control over the Healthcare industry.

SEIU bylaws pdf

Think about that for a while and then try to sleep.
4 posted on 11/15/2009 7:18:25 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Delacon
Liberals have admitted government resources are finite. There simply isn't enough money to go around to give every one the kind of health care they expect. So some treatments simply have to go. And if they are the only ones that can work for you, then good luck. For Washington won't pay for them.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

5 posted on 11/15/2009 7:21:53 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Delacon

Um... It’s a death panel.


6 posted on 11/15/2009 7:23:01 PM PST by Rocky (Obama's ego: The "I's" have it.)
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To: cripplecreek

YEP.....that’s what it is ALL about.....union dues from millions of new members....people need to get a clue.


7 posted on 11/15/2009 7:24:07 PM PST by goodnesswins (Become a Precinct Committee Person/Officer....in the GOP...or do NOT complain.)
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To: Rocky

Done in my best Montgomery Burns imitation. “We have a group of people that historically have been apathetic and indifferent to government. They can’t vote or if they can, they dont complain. Even if they do vote, they traditionally show up in small numbers. They don’t give real money to lobbyists and politicians. They have the least political power. Excellent(hands steepled)....”

Smithers: But what if they eventually get pissed about being a milked cow?

Burns: Smithers you flamboyant fool, we will be dead and they still will have to pay the debt. It is the perfect crime. I suppose there will be more organ replacements for me Smithers. I want a healthy liver Smithers so make sure that radical surgery for car crash victims gets no funding and I can get a fresh teen one.


8 posted on 11/15/2009 7:37:25 PM PST by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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First they will kill the Repubs, and then the Independents. Last to die the conservative Dems. BTW if you read the stimulus bill you will find the death panel. Headed by Zeke Emanuel!!!!


9 posted on 11/15/2009 8:11:43 PM PST by wbones8765 ("Give me liberty or give me death")
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To: Delacon

It used to be our “right” to die; the libDems would now like it to be our duty to die, except for the elite, that is.


10 posted on 11/15/2009 8:18:22 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Delacon

Hey, not bad. However, it does sort of make me feel like Homer Simpson.


11 posted on 11/15/2009 8:21:12 PM PST by Rocky (Obama's ego: The "I's" have it.)
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To: cripplecreek
"Think about that for a while and then try to sleep. "

Think about that for a while and then try to sleep resist stocking up on more ammo, weapons, and union lists.

12 posted on 11/15/2009 9:39:23 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Delacon
As envisioned by the Senate Finance Committee, the commission—all 15 members appointed by the President

All this power over Americans' life and death decisions in the executive branch. Sounds fitting for a dictator.
13 posted on 11/15/2009 9:45:40 PM PST by Girlene (o-bow-ma)
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To: Delacon; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

14 posted on 11/15/2009 9:46:36 PM PST by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: Delacon

Uhh...How many baby boomers will be entering the Medicare system in the next 10 years? When they do so, how much are they expected to contribute to the overall cost of Medicare?


15 posted on 11/15/2009 10:06:22 PM PST by tinamina
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To: SuperLuminal; cripplecreek

Ya’ll sleep,,,

I’ll watch...;0)


16 posted on 11/15/2009 10:20:25 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: goodnesswins
YEP.....that’s what it is ALL about.....union dues from millions of new members....people need to get a clue.

I wish that were all its about. Unfortunately its far far worse. Its about quality of care being directly tied to party and union standing. Ranking party and union members will get the best care your money can buy, we'll get a filthy cot and a veterinarian in a dirty shed if we're lucky.

Ultimately its about the extermination of political oppositition without rounding us up and gunning us down.
17 posted on 11/16/2009 3:40:43 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

Also, the American people will never understand this. They seem incapable of learning. Maybe they are too “compassionate and understanding” for their own good.


18 posted on 11/16/2009 3:42:01 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: All

ATTENTION FELLOW TEXANS:

Governor Rick Perry may invoke the 10th Amendment over
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2299225/posts?q=1&;page=51

.

Get after Perry, Texans. Burn up his switch board and fax!
Let him know we don’t want Obama DeathCare.

Say no to Obama’s DeathCare.

Send a message; DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS healthcare!

No! NO you don’t, you muzzie pos.

You’re not denying our seniors deserved health care while insuring millions of illegal aliens and while Demorats are REJECTING Obamacare for themselves and their families!

.

.

.

Join organizations who fight ObamaCare.

This is a good organization:
The Alliance of Texans Against Government Controlled Healthcare:
http://www.notintexas.org/

office (972) 466-2915
fax (972) 466-2965
toll-free (866) 377-1300

From the website:
We are currently contacting Governor Rick Perry by fax and mail!

We have made it easy for you to help. Click here to display the letter and contact information.
http://www.notintexas.org/Letter_rick_perry.htm

Petition to STOP government controlled healthcare in Texas
Read and sign the petition
http://www.notintexas.org/Letter_to_Reps.htm

.

Print and sign the letter
(feel free to make changes if you wish)

Fax the letter to the fax numbers

Mail a hard copy to the addresses

Call their offices

Dear Governor Perry,

On March 30, 2009 the Texas House of Representatives passed HCR 50 affirming that the State of Texas claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment.

You have publicly supported this bill, and stated that attorney generals from all over the union could be getting ready to sue the US Government.

We are asking you to take the lead.

We are asking you to order the Texas Attorney General to publicly begin working on a law suit under Article IV, Ninth, and Tenth Amendment of the Constitution.

We are asking you to protect the citizens of Texas that we will not stand for government controlled healthcare in our state.

Under your leadership we can effectively kill the proposal of this administration and allow Texas to be a state free from socialism and collectivism.

Be the voice of reason in the national debate and allow Texans the ability to solve the problems of our state.

Thank you,

(Signature Date)

.

Lookup your state representatives

FREE FAX SERVICSES:
http://www.gotfreefax.com/
http://faxzero.com/
or google ‘free fax’

Contacting Rick Perry

Office of the Governor
P.O. Box 12428
Austin, Texas 78711
Phone: (512) 463-2000
Fax: (512) 463-1849

Washington Office:
122 C St., NW, Ste. 200
Washington, DC 20001
Phone: (202) 638-3927
Fax: (202) 628-1943

Contact Budget Planning and Policy

Address:1100 San Jacinto
Austin, Texas 78701
Phone: (512) 463-1778
Fax: (512) 463-1975
Gregory S. Davidson
Constituent Communication Division Director and
Executive Clerk to the Governor
Phone: (512) 463-1873

Office of the General Counsel
Department Mailing Address
P.O. Box 12428
Austin, TX 78711
Phone: 512.463.2000
Fax: 512.463.1932

Press Secretary
Allison Castle, Press Secretary
P.O. Box 12428
Austin, Texas 78711
Phone: (512) 463-1826
Fax: (512) 463-1847

Contact Texas Health Care Policy Council
P.O. Box 12428
Austin, Texas 78711
Phone: (512) 463-1778
Fax: (512) 463-1975

Sign up. Become a member.
Sign petition against Obamacare!
See member interview with Cavuto!

____________________

From Texans Against Government Controlled Health Care

http://www.notintexas.org/

Facts about the 10th Amendment:

The Tenth Amendment (Amendment X) of the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791. The Tenth Amendment restates the Constitution’s principle of Federalism by providing that powers not granted to the national government nor prohibited to the states are reserved to the states or the people.

HCR 50 HAS PASSED THE HOUSE 99-36!
Affirming that the State of Texas claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the U.S. Constitution, serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates, and providing that certain federal legislation be prohibited or repealed.

Take Action! Before it is too late!

.

.

__________________________

REMEMBER THIS,TEXANS:

Feds Have Built Only 32 Miles of 700 Mile Double-Border Fence Originally Mandated by Congress

“One reason DHS has been able to do this is an amendment that Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R.-Texas) slipped into an omnibus appropriations bill that Congress passed on December 18, 2007. Hutchison’s amendment put a loophole in the fence law that allowed the secretary of Homeland Security not to build the fence Congress had mandated the year before.”
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/43422

REMEMBER THIS WHEN YOU VOTE FOR GOVERNOR


19 posted on 11/16/2009 5:21:21 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: All

ATTENTION FELLOW TEXANS:

Governor Rick Perry may invoke the 10th Amendment over
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2299225/posts?q=1&;page=51

.

Get after Perry, Texans. Burn up his switch board and fax!
Let him know we don’t want Obama DeathCare.

Say no to Obama’s DeathCare.

Send a message; DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS healthcare!

No! NO you don’t, you muzzie pos.

You’re not denying our seniors deserved health care while insuring millions of illegal aliens and while Demorats are REJECTING Obamacare for themselves and their families!

.

.

.

Join organizations who fight ObamaCare.

This is a good organization:
The Alliance of Texans Against Government Controlled Healthcare:
http://www.notintexas.org/

office (972) 466-2915
fax (972) 466-2965
toll-free (866) 377-1300

From the website:
We are currently contacting Governor Rick Perry by fax and mail!

We have made it easy for you to help. Click here to display the letter and contact information.
http://www.notintexas.org/Letter_rick_perry.htm

Petition to STOP government controlled healthcare in Texas
Read and sign the petition
http://www.notintexas.org/Letter_to_Reps.htm

.

Print and sign the letter
(feel free to make changes if you wish)

Fax the letter to the fax numbers

Mail a hard copy to the addresses

Call their offices

Dear Governor Perry,

On March 30, 2009 the Texas House of Representatives passed HCR 50 affirming that the State of Texas claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment.

You have publicly supported this bill, and stated that attorney generals from all over the union could be getting ready to sue the US Government.

We are asking you to take the lead.

We are asking you to order the Texas Attorney General to publicly begin working on a law suit under Article IV, Ninth, and Tenth Amendment of the Constitution.

We are asking you to protect the citizens of Texas that we will not stand for government controlled healthcare in our state.

Under your leadership we can effectively kill the proposal of this administration and allow Texas to be a state free from socialism and collectivism.

Be the voice of reason in the national debate and allow Texans the ability to solve the problems of our state.

Thank you,

(Signature Date)

.

Lookup your state representatives

FREE FAX SERVICSES:
http://www.gotfreefax.com/
http://faxzero.com/
or google ‘free fax’

Contacting Rick Perry

Office of the Governor
P.O. Box 12428
Austin, Texas 78711
Phone: (512) 463-2000
Fax: (512) 463-1849

Washington Office:
122 C St., NW, Ste. 200
Washington, DC 20001
Phone: (202) 638-3927
Fax: (202) 628-1943

Contact Budget Planning and Policy

Address:1100 San Jacinto
Austin, Texas 78701
Phone: (512) 463-1778
Fax: (512) 463-1975
Gregory S. Davidson
Constituent Communication Division Director and
Executive Clerk to the Governor
Phone: (512) 463-1873

Office of the General Counsel
Department Mailing Address
P.O. Box 12428
Austin, TX 78711
Phone: 512.463.2000
Fax: 512.463.1932

Press Secretary
Allison Castle, Press Secretary
P.O. Box 12428
Austin, Texas 78711
Phone: (512) 463-1826
Fax: (512) 463-1847

Contact Texas Health Care Policy Council
P.O. Box 12428
Austin, Texas 78711
Phone: (512) 463-1778
Fax: (512) 463-1975

Sign up. Become a member.
Sign petition against Obamacare!
See member interview with Cavuto!

____________________

From Texans Against Government Controlled Health Care

http://www.notintexas.org/

Facts about the 10th Amendment:

The Tenth Amendment (Amendment X) of the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791. The Tenth Amendment restates the Constitution’s principle of Federalism by providing that powers not granted to the national government nor prohibited to the states are reserved to the states or the people.

HCR 50 HAS PASSED THE HOUSE 99-36!
Affirming that the State of Texas claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the U.S. Constitution, serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates, and providing that certain federal legislation be prohibited or repealed.

Take Action! Before it is too late!

.

.

__________________________

REMEMBER THIS,TEXANS:

Feds Have Built Only 32 Miles of 700 Mile Double-Border Fence Originally Mandated by Congress

“One reason DHS has been able to do this is an amendment that Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R.-Texas) slipped into an omnibus appropriations bill that Congress passed on December 18, 2007. Hutchison’s amendment put a loophole in the fence law that allowed the secretary of Homeland Security not to build the fence Congress had mandated the year before.”
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/43422

REMEMBER THIS WHEN YOU VOTE FOR GOVERNOR


20 posted on 11/16/2009 5:21:21 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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