I don't see any way 0bama wins on this matter other than a quick quiet trial with guilty verdicts and death sentences for all; I don't see any way that can happen. The Defense witness list will contain CIA directors, Cheney, Bush FBI directors and even Holder himself. These guys Constitutional rights have been violated on so many levels that I don't see what evidence we have against them. The judge may not even allow these guys to be called terrorists (prejudicial don't you know).
If the terrorists use their treatment as an issue at trial the prosecution must refute it or lose the case which will destroy the president. In refuting mistreatment claims of the terrorists Holder will have to explain why he is holding investigations into that exact matter.
“The judge may not even allow these guys to be called terrorists (prejudicial don’t you know).”
Maybe the judge will allow them to be called man-caused disaster starters.
Not if he's playing to lose deliberately, to demoralize and "suppress" the conservatives and as much of the rest of the country as possible, unaccountably ("it's all Bush's fault!!"), and just generally ruin the country like a good little Frankfurt School Communist.
Remember, Communists are all team players. Obama will be ready to hand off to Rahm Emanuel at some point, to finish the job of "revolution from above".
Everything that happens will be a weapon aimed at "The Main Enemy" (c) -- Us.
” The Defense witness list will contain CIA directors, Cheney, Bush FBI directors and even Holder himself. These guys Constitutional rights have been violated on so many levels that I don’t see what evidence we have against them.”
Yup. I`m beginning to think this will be a cakewalk for the defense. And KSM will enjoy a world stage to spout from.
“If the terrorists use their treatment as an issue at trial the prosecution must refute it or lose the case which will destroy the president. In refuting mistreatment claims of the terrorists, Holder will have to explain why he is holding investigations into that exact matter.”
This is great! Wow! That’s a terrible box to be in.
And .. we know they will use their treatment by the USA .. because we KNOW their training shows them how to do that (it plays well on the world stage), and we’ve already seen them use it against us. And .. this trial in NYC will be the biggest world stage the terrorists have ever been on; so of course they will use it.
You’re right, how will Holder explain why he’s investigating the CIA, if we didn’t do the things the terrorists allege.
Amazing!!
The other thing I heard the last couple of days was that Kalid WANTED TO BE TRIED IN NYC. Hmmmmm ..?? That supports my theory that this is a “planned operation”. Kalid gets to NYC and the terrorists attack the City (a dirty bomb might do the trick) and Kalid dies .. along with perhaps tens of thousands of other people.
The fact this current admin has no awareness of this possibility lends me to believe they may be hoping it will happen - whereby they can make use of “.. never let a good crisis go to waste ...”. I wonder .. would they go that far by declaring martial law and shutting down the govt ..?? These people are really scary.
Thanks for your great info Mike!!
I think you are right in broad terms that Obozo and co. may not have thought through all the *political* perils these trials will pose for the Demagogues...... (in fact I just posted something related to that here before I actually started to read the thread).
However, we must not underestimate the groveling sycophancy of the media and their abilities to bury almost any fact or issue in boatloads of c-BS style propaganda.
I don’t think the inherent contradictions in liberal positions will get much attention, but there are many ways that these trials can force issues of terrorism, 9/11, and shameless Democrat pandering into public view.