From what I understand, the Spanish Flu (and by extension the new A-H1N1 variant) kills by provoking an immune system hyper-response, sometimes called the “Cytokine Storm” which severely damages the lungs and causes Acute Respiratory Distress (ARD) resulting in oxygen deprivation to the internal organs.
Here is an over the counter (OTC) formula that inhibits some of the major inflammatory mediators, and is now being suggested as a way to stave off ARD. All four factors must be included.
1a) A prescription ACE-2 inhibitor anti-hypertension drug. (Note: Healthy folks w/normal BP would experience a crash in BP, fainting, et al. Those already on other types of BP lowering meds would experience the same.) -or- 1b) If unavailable, 15,000 IU of Vitamin D* (Note: 15,000 IU is a huge dose of Vitamin D, a fat soluble vitamin. This means excess Vitamin D is stored in the liver, rather being excreted. The half life of Vitamin D is roughly three weeks, and Vitamin D toxicity can cause serious problems)In addition, it is also recommended to maintain just the MDAR of Vitamin A. Being short of Vitamin A is associated with having an excess of a very powerful inflammatory mediator called TNF-1. But it is easy to take too much Vitamin A, which is toxic. High doses of the provitamin Beta-carotene, which the body converts to Vitamin A, might work as well as straight Vitamin A, and are much less toxic.2) Histamine-1 blocker. Benedryl or the equivalent.
3) Histamine-2 blocker. Tagamet or the equivalent (normally used to block acid reflux.)
4) Ibuprofen. Advil or the equivalent, a prostaglandin blocker.
Care should be taken to avoid “health foods” that can artificially enhance the immune system, something to be avoided when there is the prospect of ARD.
This was extracted from an earlier thread I've lost track of, with some comments on Vitamin D from NautiNurse, and on ACE-2 inhibitors from reformedliberal added, and a flat out guess on Beta Carotene from me...
Freeper Domestic Church posted that the recipe actually did help her ....
To: penelopesire
I already had it...took vit D at anti microbial levels for the summer and then then dosed up with D3 5000 ius 3 times a day along with advil, tagamet and benadryl for 3 to 4 days to keep the cytokine storm from brewing. I would have died otherwise...very over-reactive immune system, but I have read of documented cases in the spring getting this again. The human body doesn’t build up antobdies to this as well as to other more recent flu viri...probably why they were saying from the start that kids should be vaccinated twice against it. Also you shed the virus for much longer after you think you are over it. Many have had respiratory set backs in the 3rd week.
145 posted on Friday, October 16, 2009 6:42:37 PM by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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Also Freeper Domestic Church took the recipe below & it helped her with swineflu she sent me this info below
advil every 6 hours for the inflammation - I needed 2 to 3, definitely 3 when the headache and soft tissue neck & head swelling was going on...2 benadryl every 4 hours and 1 tagamet in AM and 1 at night...tagamet usually if for the stomach but it also is a specific histamine blocker and with the benadryl being a broad histamine blocker. You need all three together and push tons of fluids- lipton bottled green tea was great as it is a naturel diuretic removing all the cellular debris - which you need to do as it rapidly build up and makes you feel wretched...but you can get generic OTC meds & the green tea at walmart.
Freeper yefragetuwrabrumuy sent me this
From yefragetuwrabrumuy | 08/28/2009 7:39:27 PM PDT replied
There shouldn’t be a problem, because they are involving two different things. The recipe is designed to settle down the immune system to keep it from overreacting, which can kill you.
Tamiflu and Relenza are both what are called neuraminidase inhibitors, that attack the virus directly. To explain:
In H1N1 Swine flu, the letter ‘H’ stands for hemagglutinin, and the letter ‘N’ stands for neuraminidase. Simply put, ‘H’ is how viruses penetrate human cells to get in, and ‘N’ is how the now millions of reproduced viruses punch their way out again, having used the cell to make more copies of themselves to infect other cells.
If the virus can’t get in, or can’t get out, it dies. So what Tamiflu and Relenza do is keep the viruses from leaving the infected cells. When the cell dies, it is detected as dead, policed up and dissolved along with the viruses still inside.
This is why cranberry juice is also so useful. It works on the other side of the equation, by making cells too “slippery” for viruses to adhere to with their ‘H’. But you need to drink a LOT of pure juice.
And this is also where ionic zinc (from Cold-Eeze lozenges) comes into play. Once viruses have used their ‘H’ to enter the cell, zinc interferes with their reproduction inside the cell.
So using cranberry juice, zinc, and Tamiflu and/or Relenza, is a one-two-three punch directly at the virus.
The recipe, while oriented to toning down the immune system, to keep if from running wild, also has an anti-viral effect in a different way, because of the Vitamin D3. Vitamin D breaks down into the body to attack viruses in several different ways. The first is that is decomposes into a weak acid that corrodes the surface of the viruses, which can kill it. It also activates the type of immune cells that destroy viruses, and it opens pathways for them to use in the body.
As part of the recipe, it tones down ACE, which is a histamine like substance, too much of which can cause high blood pressure, and is a major part of the cytokine storm. Prescription ACE inhibitors are prescribed for high blood pressure, but Vitamin D is a natural ACE inhibitor.
Freeper null and void sent me this message post 709 on the swineflu thread
To: DvdMom
From what I understand, the Spanish Flu (and by extension the new A-H1N1 variant) kills by provoking an immune system hyper-response, sometimes called the “Cytokine Storm” which severely damages the lungs and causes Acute Respiratory Distress (ARD) resulting in oxygen deprivation to the internal organs.
Here is an over the counter (OTC) formula that inhibits some of the major inflammatory mediators, and is now being suggested as a way to stave off ARD. All four factors must be included.
1a) A prescription ACE-2 inhibitor anti-hypertension drug. -or-
1b) If unavailable, 15,000 IU of Vitamin D* (Note: 15,000 IU is a huge dose of Vitamin D, a fat soluble vitamin. This means excess Vitamin D is stored in the liver, rather being excreted. The half life of Vitamin D is roughly three weeks, and Vitamin D toxicity can cause serious problems)
2) Histamine-1 blocker. Benedryl or the equivalent.
3) Histamine-2 blocker. Tagamet or the equivalent (normally used to block acid reflux.)
4) Ibuprofen. Advil or the equivalent, a prostaglandin blocker.
In addition, it is also recommended to maintain just the MDAR of Vitamin A. Being short of Vitamin A is associated with having an excess of a very powerful inflammatory mediator called TNF-1. But it is easy to take too much Vitamin A, which is toxic.
709 posted on Sunday, August 09, 2009 1:10:22 PM by null and void (We are now in day 200 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn’t one of US.)