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To: My Favorite Headache

I’m only trying to remember what I learned in college, but I can tell you I flat out do not believe that ridiculous 450,000 figure. Theoretically I think 350,000 is the number that usually is able to find other work fairly quickly, i.e. less than a month. And if that is the case, and that’s a big if, as that number slowly goes down we should see job growth. I’m only going from memory, if I’m wrong and somebody knows the correct number please tell me.


18 posted on 11/12/2009 8:34:31 AM PST by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: moose2004

I think that we are in uncharted territory with respect to the economy. We are likely undergoing long-term structural changes wherein former “rules-of-thumb” just don’t apply.

I think what you were referring to is something that government statisticians used to refer to as “churning” — the number of jobs typically lost during a given period where the unemployed can gain new employment within a minimal defined period.


27 posted on 11/12/2009 10:59:30 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: moose2004

Your number is in the ballpark and supported by the last 20 years of unemployment claims and graphs of the four-week moving average of initial claims. No doubt about that.

We still do not see the long-term (> 6 months or 26 weeks) unemployment trendline coming down, tho.

There is HUGE slack in the labor force. Employers can go forward without hiring two+ million workers simply by pulling back in part-timed labor to full-time, and bringing furloughed workers back on to active employment.

The slack in the labor force is going to be the biggest impediment to creating “new jobs” going foward.


31 posted on 11/12/2009 11:20:31 AM PST by NVDave
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