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At Fort Hood, Witness Credits Second Officer
NY Times ^ | 11/11/2009 | James C. McKinley, Jr.

Posted on 11/11/2009 9:27:52 PM PST by Saije

Sgt. Kimberly D. Munley has been applauded as a hero across the nation for shooting down Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan during the bloody rampage at Fort Hood last week. The account of heroism, given by the authorities, attracted the attention of newspapers, the networks and television talk shows.

But the story of how the petite police officer and the accused gunman went down in an exchange of gunfire does not agree with the account of an eyewitness who had gone to the base’s processing center, where the shooting occurred, to conduct business before being deployed.

The witness, who asked not to be identified, said Major Hasan wheeled on Sergeant Munley as she rounded the corner of a building and shot her, putting her on the ground. Then Major Hasan turned his back on her and started putting another magazine into his semiautomatic pistol.

It was at that moment that Senior Sgt. Mark Todd, a veteran police officer, rounded another corner of the building, found Major Hasan fumbling with his weapon and shot him.

How the authorities came to issue the original version of the story, which made Sergeant Munley a national hero for several days and obscured Sergeant Todd’s role, remains unclear. (Military officials also said for several hours after the shooting that Major Hasan had been killed, although he had survived.)

Six days after the deadly shooting rampage at a center where soldiers were preparing for deployment, the military has yet to put out a full account of what happened.

At a news conference outside the post on Wednesday, Lt. Col. John Rossi refused to take questions about who shot Major Hasan or why the initial reports said it had been Sergeant Munley rather than Sergeant Todd.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: forthood; hasan; jihadinamerica; marktodd; munley; nidalmalikhasan; todd
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To: Saije

I don’t know why folks seem to be getting their knickers in a twist about this. Ms. Munley isn’t the one crowing about her deeds. And from what I read in earlier reports, Hasan shot HER first, so it’s likely her return fire either didn’t hit him at all, or was not effective. But she DID slow Hasan down, and distract him, so that her partner could get the effective shots off. Sounds like they worked as a good team.


41 posted on 11/12/2009 10:18:14 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: FlyingEagle; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Marine_Uncle; BOBTHENAILER; SunkenCiv; blam; ...
Man that is powerful stuff....

Referring to the post at #34, &35.

42 posted on 11/12/2009 11:59:48 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: FlyingEagle

Thank you. May God rest the souls of those who succumbed on that day, and may He bring peace and comfort, to the hearts and minds of those who lived through it.

Tatt


43 posted on 11/12/2009 12:08:53 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: thesearethetimes...; FlyingEagle

Gods Blessings to any involved in any way with this horrendous event and their families who are so tragically affected....


44 posted on 11/12/2009 12:14:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: packrat35

Anyone who will get between me and a terrorist is a hero.


45 posted on 11/12/2009 1:40:20 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: Ptarmigan
Here they are:

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What a great sight to see them on the TV last night.

46 posted on 11/12/2009 1:43:26 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Got jihad? "I'd like to give a shout out to ALLAH!!" Nidal Hasan, 11/05/09)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Anyone who will get between me and a terrorist is a hero. Including whoever is next to me that I graab and use as a shield, that person will also be a hero.

*grin*


47 posted on 11/12/2009 2:00:11 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: GeronL

LOL.


48 posted on 11/12/2009 2:06:12 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: SuziQ

You got it right, SuziQ. SGT Todd was the first one to pump lead into the terrorist, and he and SGT Munley did perform as a team. They spared countless lives. God bless them.


49 posted on 11/12/2009 2:43:52 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Got jihad? "I'd like to give a shout out to ALLAH!!" Nidal Hasan, 11/05/09)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave
How come I seen her and the American-African Sergeant on Oprah yesterday and they were both supporting her doing the point blank shooting with the terrorist shooting her right back??? What's up with that???

No! I wasn't watching the African Queen!! Mrs. Waspman was!!!

50 posted on 11/12/2009 4:07:26 PM PST by SierraWasp (AARP is guilty of Elder Abuse by endorsing a law that eliminates Medicare Advantaqe plans!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
I don't know I wasn't there...did you read thru that email at post #34.

That is an eye witness who was there.

51 posted on 11/12/2009 4:13:22 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: SierraWasp

It’s possible that Munley shot at Hasan, but if he got the shot off, and hit her first, her shot might not have connected. Because she engaged him, and he shot her, he had to reload, and that gave her partner the chance to take Hasan down. So what Todd said is right, even though he may have been the one to actually take Hasan down.


52 posted on 11/12/2009 5:03:51 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: FlyingEagle; Saije; Ernest_at_the_Beach

American heros come to mind. And so much for multiple shooters being involved. It is nice to see the authorities going public as quickly as they have with the intent to charge this prick in the deaths of thirteen people. Hope his military trial is quick and just. No use bull shitting around and letting some lawyer try to pull some crap off.


53 posted on 11/12/2009 5:12:36 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: La Enchiladita
Just a question....what TV was that?

Your referring to last night so ...would guess it is something other than Oprah.

54 posted on 11/12/2009 5:20:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Yeah it is. I saw that as a forwarded e-mail and had had doubts but it has been backed up so doubts are gone.

Both cops reacted with righteous mettle and valor.
55 posted on 11/12/2009 5:45:44 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: Saije
This isn't a surprise to people here on this board as they have been accounts of Sgt. Todd downing Hasan and handcuffing him already. Some here speculated that Munley was another Jessica Lynch. The NY TIMES is desperately trying be relevant and shift the discussion.

My understanding was and is that Munley shot him first then Todd downed him.

56 posted on 11/12/2009 7:32:00 PM PST by FTJM
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; SuziQ; Grampa Dave
I don't know, Ernest. The substantiation of the "eye witness" is not conclusive, from what I'm seeing.

Furthermore, why is anyone but the Muslims having a problem with her being the heroine? I could easily understand their frustration with a little wisp of a woman demonstrating the courage and training of a US lady policewoman!!!

Her humiliation of this tormented terrorist has exposed still more cowardice of those chickenchits who would be terrorists in the future. Her fellow Sergeant sat quietly right next to her with a stowic straight face and backed her story on national TV to the hilt!!!

57 posted on 11/12/2009 10:07:37 PM PST by SierraWasp (AARP is guilty of Elder Abuse by endorsing a law that eliminates Medicare Advantaqe plans!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

ABC Eyewitness News... 5 p.m.


58 posted on 11/13/2009 11:34:16 AM PST by La Enchiladita (Got jihad? "I'd like to give a shout out to ALLAH!!" Nidal Hasan, 11/05/09)
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To: BIGLOOK
Both cops reacted with righteous mettle and valor.

Exactly. I don't see any need to quibble. They are both fine Americans, no hyphens needed:)

59 posted on 11/13/2009 11:35:44 AM PST by La Enchiladita (Got jihad? "I'd like to give a shout out to ALLAH!!" Nidal Hasan, 11/05/09)
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To: La Enchiladita

Thanks.


60 posted on 11/13/2009 11:39:52 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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