Posted on 11/07/2009 5:26:39 PM PST by cmj328
If you, and those who think like you, end up being the cause of this legislation passing...you can rest assured your days of having ANY influence in ANY political party with a chance to win...are over.
You will be relegated to eternal irrelevance.
You cannot see the forest for the trees.
Stupak amendment is being approved right now. 64 Dems voted AYE. All Republicans voted AYE except three: 1 present, 2 not voting. Tally at this moment is 238-192, with 1 present and 4 NV.
Shadegg was alone in voting present.
“Heaven and Earth will pass away, but My Word will not pass away.” -God
The Stupak amendment vote just gave cover to my Dem legislator. He can now vote for HR3962.
As I wrote earlier, seek moral clarity with your Lord—not in this legislative process.
Well it is going to get thrown out in conference.. Sometimes people are like don’t see the big picture.. Those who vote for this bill will be out in 2011...
Exactly! It is like they are actually working against their own principals.
Ummm, principles.
If it’s thrown out in conference, the USCCB is likely to oppose the final bill.
I DON’T CARE ABOUT THE USCCB THINKS.. I’M NOT CATHOLIC.. WE HAVE THING CALLED A SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!! This was a smokescreen to dolts like you.
But they can get a bulletin insert placed in every parish in the country--that's tens of millions of voters. So what they think matters in terms of what will pass, and what won't pass, and who will pay the price in the next election, and who won't.
She’s a day late.
The idea of voting present was good one, stopping this pro death for seniors bill by rationing care would have been good. Without the Stupak-Pitts amendment the bill would have failed.
Yes, and he is wrong to do that but that does not diminish the fact he is ardently pro-life. He is just as pro-life as you. Again, you are only disagreeing about strategy. It does no one any good to continue this "I-am-holier-than-you" fight and EV is just as guilty of it as you are.
Exactly, and you’re just as guilty of it as RTL. Your organization offers no real results to anyone. It divides votes and elects Democrats.
Yes, if the Catholic constituency really cares. They voted 54% for Obama and most Catholics feel that spreading the wealth triumphs the pro-life issue anyway.
I wish your statement was correct.
Our party is a meta-party. We support truly Reaganite Republicans.
However, folks like yourself who have turned just plain nasty Alinskyite mean make me want to burn your whole party down to the ground.
“All of us who value the sanctity of life are grateful for the success of the pro-life majority in the House this evening in its battle against federal funding of abortion in this bill...The victory tonight to amend the bill and eliminate that federal funding for abortion was great”
—Sarah Palin
Well, you got your amendment and here is the scuttlebutt today.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2382216/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2382241/posts
It is just like we said, it was a squishy amendment anyway, it no more protected life than it protected us from the IRS. It was there to give cover for those who have a pro-life constituency.
You want to fight by ethical rules, you want to believe that people mean what they say but I’ve been into politics long enough to know that they don’t play by those rules and if you think they do then you’ve already lost the game.
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