Posted on 11/04/2009 8:52:44 PM PST by TaraP
In last 24 hours, an unknown virus (presumed pneumonic plague) infected another 37 thousand and killed 12 more people. The authorities deny that this is pneumonic plague, and insist that people die from influenza, pneumonia and ARI.
Meanwhile, an emergency message from the President of Ukraine to the international community to immediately help in the fight against the virus, only reinforces the suspicion that pneumonia and influenza is not the cause.
"The current threat to national security of Ukraine, which we can not offset on our own, requires me to turn to our closest friends and strategic partners for emergency aid", - Yushchenko said in an appeal to the leaders of Belarus, Hungary, Moldova, Poland, Romania, Russia Slovakia, USA, and EU Commission President and Secretary General of NATO.
According to the operative data of the Ministry of Health on 1 November, recorded through out the country more than 191 thousand patients with unknown disease of lungs. Of these, 83 thousand are children. Total number deaths recorded - 60, 123 people are dying.
Day before, on October 31, according to Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko, 154 200 people fell ill, according to official data, 48 patients died, including two children.
Authorities officially called the disease "swine flu", "California flu", "SARS","pneumonia", but doctors say on the basis of clinical data and the rapidity of the epidemic, that it is pneumonic plague.
Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague by Russian terrorist organization, the FSB of Russia, using bacteriological weapons to destabilize the situation necessary for the armed aggression of Russia against Ukraine.
According to unofficial information, the death rate in Ukraine from the alleged pneumonic plague is higher than officially announced.
According to unofficial data, "in Ukraine over the past week about 1500 people have already died. As noted by some doctors, the reason - pneumonic plague. High temperatures from the first day, a burning sensation in the chest, the desire to drink cold and nausea - all of these symptoms are frightening. People die within few days.
On the other hand, Ukrainian media reported that the virus is rapidly spreading in Ukraine and has already reached Odessa:
"1 woman died in the area of Odessa. Swine influenza has not been confirmed, most likely pneumonic plague was the cause.
Odessa and the region is already infected, most likely, is mutated pneumonic plague ", - said one of the doctors of private clinics in Odessa.
"The panic that spreads through the city, is so great that people are willing to sit at home even on just bread and water. Lack of gauze dressings in the city and surrounding areas - is just the beginning, and there is no elementary necessary ascorbic acid and inhalers.
Meanwhile, the first officially recorded death is because of pneumonic plague, and believe me in reality the are much more, "- says the Odessa physician.
All the doctors throughout Ukraine say that this is pneumonic plague.
"I have met with friends from the western Ukraine, the doctors say that the lungs of the dead were black. And that, perhaps this is not influenza but pneumonic plague. Well, if this is indeed a plague, then the news won't mention it for now, and certainly - it's 100% death (according to the U.S. for 1950-1994 - 41%, but the American health care, of course, not Ukrainian, and American doctors knew that they are dealing with a plague - KC).
With each passing day the picture becomes more and more dire, bloggers wrote and continued:
"The number of deaths is understated. The practice of health care service - to respond to anything after a really big problem. And "big" - far not 60 - as reported to the authorities at the moment.
All the actions talk about a really serious problem that the government is facing. The atmosphere in general - I recalled the early days of the Chernobyl accident - were the same "movement", and secrecy on the part of officials.
The regional center: converted the place to fit 200 beds, tripled the personnel of Precinct Therapeutic Services for special situation of contagious diseases (on materials of live broadcast 'Medchinovnika').
The guy was Joseph Moshe. He's alive and well in Israel.
He claimed back in August that the H1N1 vaccine was going to contain a bio weapon and be released in the Ukraine.
See comment #45: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2378912/posts?page=45#45
Short version: pneumonic plague can be spread through the air. That’s part of what makes it far worse than bubonic (sp?) plague aka the Black Death.
Smokin’ Joe I’m pinging your list , and some other freepers to a new Ukraine H1N1 / Unknown Virus Article .
Bookmark - thanks.
I thought the same as you. Is there a link?
"Laboratory testing in Ukraine has confirmed pandemic H1N1 influenza virus in samples taken from patients in two of the most affected regions. As the pandemic virus has rapidly become the dominant influenza strain worldwide, it can be assumed that most cases of influenza in Ukraine are caused by the H1N1 virus."
Interview today with Niman, he’s talking about Ukraine. He says it is swine H1N1, not any other dieases. I think he is correct.
http://kboo.fm/audio/download/17494/nov%205%2009%20niman.mp3
They have a tough time with influenza every year but this year is particularly bad.
As to the Russians, well I would never put anything past them, especially since there are national elections in Ukraine in January.
Here’s an interesting backdrop. Baxter pharma was reportedly making vaccine in Czechoslovakia and it was contaminated with H5N1. H5N1 has over a 60 % case fatality rate in first world nations, over 90% case fatality rate in 3rd world nations. The vaccine was shipped to several countries before being recalled. What are the odds some made it to the Odessa black market courtesy of KGB?
http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/2009/02/questions_about_bird_flu_conta.php
Yes, prayers going up for the people of Ukraine.
No guesses.
For some reason my interests/attention has been peaked in what the third secret of Sister Lucia revealed.
Deals with Russia and the world wide spread of Communism as bringing the wrath of God onto the earth...early probing not factual in knowledge.
That was in Algeria, not Albania.
Algeria! Thanks!
Can you post to this thread, in its entirety, the Third Secret of Sister Lucia?
You’re welcome.
What most people don’t know is that Bubonic plague exists in rabbits and rodents in the U.S.A. They are a ‘biological reservoir’ of that disease. Plague is easily treated if diagnosed early. In this country it is rarely fatal.
The thing that bothers me about this outbreak in Ukraine is that it may actually be a mutated H1N1, so antibiotics will not fight it.
If you google Third Secret of Sister Lucia and Communism a whole world of fact on the subject will be before you.
I prefer not to post what I have (there is allot) as I dont want to turn this forum into a bashing thread or such.
You know how THAT tends to happen.
History in itself ie. Lenin where God was not allowed and Athiest/Communist prevailed backs up what the Catholic Church concurs with Sister Lucia that communism will destroy us.
There are even copies of her original letters she wrote. (verify)
It is an interesting subject and even how Portugal (Lady of Fatima) fought against Moslems for centuries.
In depth it also goes into crimes against humanity (abortion would fit that for sure).
It is not deep intellect reading IMO so easy to see the correlation of how communism is destroying Gods plan for us.
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