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To: Brown Deer; maggief; Fred Nerks; LucyT; Velveeta; wideminded

FWIW - have only found one source for the info below, so it is NOT confirmed: The following is consolidated from posts I posted on this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2353627/posts?page=268#229
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I asked because I think there might be (unconfirmed) evidence that BHO, Sr married third wife Ruth in 1964 in Mass.

If so, it might explain the necessity for the divorce, which became final in Mar 1964 (assuming BHO, Sr & Stanley Ann were married).

BHO, Sr and Ruth’s son Mark was born in 1964.

Also, according to “Dreams,” Mark was the uncontested heir to BHO’s Sr’s estate because none of the other children could prove their legal claim to be his offspring. Mark had all the necessary documents.

Ruth says she was married about 7 yrs to BHO, Sr. They might have divorced in 1971. Wondered if that might have had anything to do with the law [polygamy] you are citing (rather than the abuse) & also BHO Sr’s trip to the US that year.

Much speculation here, and even if true, does it tie in anywhere to the subject of our focus.
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Ruth Ndesandjo [re-married name after divorce from Obama]
Personal and Family Information

Ruth Ndesandjo was born ABT 1945 in USA.

Ruth Ndesandjo had 2 marriages/partners. Her 1st husband was Barack Hussein Obama Sr.. They were married FROM 1964 TO 1965 in Massachusetts, USA. Their 2 known children were Mark Ndesandjo and David Ndesandjo.

Her 2nd husband was 2nd husband Nidesand. They were married ABT 1980. Their known child was Joseph Ndesandjo.

http://www.geditcom.com/samples/Obamas/INDIs/II87.html
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Both Ruth & her sons reveal as little as possible and are as vague as they can be.

By the time of BHO’s death, Ruth’s second son, David, was already deceased (died in a motorcycle accident, apparently while living with one of BHO’s half-brothers). Thus the assertion by BHO [in Dreams] that Auma said Mark had uncontested claim to BHO Sr’s estate because he was the only child with documents to prove his relationship to BHO, Sr..

Causes me to think that BHO had to have been contacted by attorneys concerning BHO Sr’s estate -— if he was BHO Sr’s son.
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Re the genealogical link: I do not think they were divorced in Mass (and definitely not in 1965). I think that may refer to when they departed US for Kenya. This source is a bit sloppy.

Ruth said she was married about 7 yrs — which if they were married in 1964, would be about 1971. Did the divorce occur in Kenya or US? do not know.

I have not checked Ruth’s whereabouts that year (1971), but BHO did come to USA, apparently near the end of that year — his only visit with BHO in the US.
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Ruth re-married & had her sons’ names changed (to their present name). She remarried, IIRC, in 1980, or thereabouts.

In Dreams, Ruth asks Barry why his mother did not have his name changed when she remarried. He did not answer her.
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FRED NERKS: well, that opens another possible can of worms doesn’t it? That means, as zero didn’t visit Kenya until several years after the death of Obama Sr, any papers, documents, manuscripts etc...from the Obama Sr ‘estate’ would now be in the possession of Mark Ndesandjo.
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Another thought worth considering:

Barack Jr’s mother, Ann Dunham visited Kenya when Obama Sr died. She met her co-wife, Kezia and they both became great friends.Since then, the Obamas have formed an extraordinary bond, despite their unstable family history and cultural and geographic differences.

http://www.postnewsline.com/2009/01/obamas-pedigree.html

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2278969/posts?page=370#370


50 posted on 11/04/2009 8:37:27 AM PST by thouworm
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To: thouworm

Another important date ...

“Problems Facing Our Socialism,” published July, 1965 in the East African Journal

FWIW:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-506338/Barack-Obamas-stepmother-living-Bracknell-reveals-close-bond-—mother.html

Barack Jnr was born in August, 1961.

Two years later, Barack Snr was accepted at Harvard and left Ann and their little boy behind for the east coast.

Throughout this time he had written regularly to Kezia, even sending pictures of Ann and Barack Jr.

What he failed to tell his first wife was that he had also met a second new woman, an American teacher called Ruth.

Nor did he tell her, on his return to Kenya in 1965, that she had become his third wife.

Kezia said: “I’d moved to the family compound in Alego. When Barack got back, he came to see me and said, ‘I don’t have a job or a house yet. When I get settled I will come back for you.’”

But Barack Snr then lost both legs in a car crash coming back from a nightclub - and Kezia discovered the truth.

She said: “When I went to see him in the hospital I thought, ‘What is that lady in there with him for?’

“Then Barack said: ‘This is Ruth.’ Next he turned to Ruth and said: ‘I have a wife and two children.’”

Barack Snr went on to become a senior economist in Jomo Kenyatta’s government, enjoying the lifestyle with Ruth that Kezia had dreamed of.

He continued to see Kezia and had son Abo with her in 1968, followed by Bernard in 1970.

Kindergarten head Ruth divorced Barack after seven years and now has the surname Ndesandjo.


57 posted on 11/04/2009 8:55:52 AM PST by maggief
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To: thouworm
Ruth Ndesandjo was born ABT 1945 in USA.

Ruth Ndesandjo had 2 marriages/partners. Her 1st husband was Barack Hussein Obama Sr.. They were married FROM 1964 TO 1965 in Massachusetts, USA. Their 2 known children were Mark Ndesandjo and David Ndesandjo.

Her 2nd husband was 2nd husband Nidesand. They were married ABT 1980. Their known child was Joseph Ndesandjo.

This doesn't make any sense.

First of all her maiden name was Ruth Nidesand.

So obviously her second husband's surname was not Nidesand.

Also Ndesandjo is obviously just a conversion to Swahili of Nidesand. So it seems very unlikely that Ruth's second husband's surname is Ndesandjo either.

What's the chance that she just happened to marry someone whose surname had 4 consonants in the same order as her maiden name?

So it seems like perhaps all her children were just given her maiden name, in an Africanized form.

75 posted on 11/04/2009 11:04:38 AM PST by wideminded
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To: thouworm
... well, that opens another possible can of worms doesn’t it? That means, as zero didn’t visit Kenya until several years after the death of Obama Sr, any papers, documents, manuscripts etc...from the Obama Sr ‘estate’ would now be in the possession of Mark Ndesandjo.

Excellent insurance for Ruth IMO.

97 posted on 11/04/2009 12:53:23 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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