[nowandlater]

I will gladly and calmly discuss any topic with anyone who seeks the truth of the matter. Are you a earnest truth seeker? If God thinks you are then my effort will be fruitful. It is in his hands.

Show me know if you are sincere about it and we will go from there.

[ejonesie22]

I have been earnest from the beginning, but continual “disappointment” has done nothing but reinforce my initial skepticism that any in the LDS fully understand exactly what their dogma truly entails, at least among those in the faith who themselves are earnest.

I suspect there are also those who know it's short comings and maintain a defense for their own self interest. Their explanations are the most ‘interesting’.

Even the simplest of questions are met with elaborate rhetorical slight of hand by the pros or practiced rote answers by the rank and file that leave very incomplete pictures and gaping holes of logic and fact that is totally unrecognized or thought about. hence my retort the "because i said so" (or because that is what we are told) is not an answer. Indeed I doubt "yes" and "no" is in the lexicon of either group.

Perhaps you can surprise me.

You would be the first.

[Elsie]

Show me know if you are sincere about it and we will go from there.

So THAT's why the Great Pumpkin fails to appear!